1000 petals by axinia

the only truth I know is my own experience

The true human rights July 8, 2010

The absolute value of individuals lies in the fact that they share with God an innate capacity for creative work and love.

The relative value of individuals depends on the level they have reached in their spiritual ascent, on the sum of efforts—both their own and Providence’s—spent on the attainment of that level, and on the degree to which they manifest in their lives those gifts for divine creative work and love…

The older religions judged the relative value of individuals by the degree to which they obeyed the prescriptions of a given religious-moral code. Religions with ascetic leanings believed the highest stage to be sainthood, defining it as either pure monastic service or as martyrdom for one’s faith. In so doing they relegated love to the background. A monk’s or martyr’s self-denial were performed not out of love for humanity or for all living beings but out of a yearning to merge with God and to avoid the torments of hell. I am, of course, referring here to the predominant tendency, the prevalent attitude, and not to such astonishing individual apostles of love as St. Francis of Assisi, Ramajuna, or Milarepa.
Monstrous though it may seem to us, even the eternal suffering of sinners in hell did not arouse in the majority of adepts of those religions the desire to enlighten the world’s laws, including the law of retribution, or karma. Eternal punishment for temporal sins appeared to them a just act of God or in any case (as in Brahmanism) an unalterable and absolutely immutable law. Buddha burned like a torch with the flame of compassion, but he, too, taught only how to free oneself from the wheel of iron laws and not how to enlighten and transform those laws. As for creative work, its intrinsic nature was not recognized at all—such a concept did not even exist—while little importance was attached to concrete forms of creative work accessible to ordinary people, with the exception of religious works in the narrow sense of the word: acts of charity, theology, missionary service, church architecture, and religious service.
Other religions that are not given to asceticism, such as Islam and Protestantism, modified the ideal of sanctity, broadening it and, at the same time, lowering it, making it more accessible, more popular, even going so far as to require the observance of commandments vis-a-vis God, the state, one’s neighbor, one’s family, and, lastly, oneself. It should be emphasized that neither one nor the other group of religions set themselves the task of transforming society, let alone nature.

It was only natural that such tasks were finally advocated by secular teachings, though in an extremely simplistic form. A lower, internally contradictory moral standard was proclaimed that blindly mixed progressive features with others that fell below a moral minimum one would have thought long beyond question. People dusted off the old formula “The end justifies the means” and, hesitating to proclaim it openly and honestly, began applying it in practice. The moral aspect of historical events was wholly ignored when the events were subjected to scrutiny or evaluation; verdicts were passed based only on consideration of the overall progressive or reactionary orientation of the given event. No one was disturbed by the fact that such a practice led to the justification of atrocities committed by many despots of the past, even such outrageous mass slaughters as the Jacobin terror or the activities of the Oprichnina. Many timehonored achievements in social progress—such as freedom of speech, the press, and conscience—were cast aside.  Thus, as society further embraced that moral standard in the form it took in real life, those positive features that it did possess were nullified. For the future held only the prospect of the dominion of material satiety, purchased by a renunciation of spiritual freedom, by millions of human lives.

The Rose of the World will teach the absolute value of individuals and their divine birthrights: the right to be free from the yoke of poverty and the oppression of power-hungry groups, the right to well-being, the right to all forms of free creative work and the public unveiling of the fruits of that work, the right to religious searchings, and the right to beauty.

The right of people to a secure existence and to the enjoyment of the benefits of civilization is an inborn right that in itself does not necessitate a renunciation of freedom or spirituality. It would be leading people astray to assert that we are faced with a crucial dilemma here, that in order to attain what are only the natural and self-evident blessings of life we must sacrifice our spiritual and social freedom.

An abstract from “The Rose of the world” by Daniel Andreev

P.S: please not that under “creative work”Andreev does not mean creativity as such or art, or anything like that! As far as I have understood from reading the whole book CREATIVE WORK is something which a kind of spiritual work, when people can work on things using their spiritual powers, not mental or physical. Adreev has written his book in the middle of the 20th century and shortly the “creative work” he meant appeared in the collective consciousness as the light work, the Inner work, the vibrational work, ets…

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77 Responses to “The true human rights”

  1. volodimir108 Says:

    CREATIVE WORK is just a new stage of human evolution,
    it is more unusual and for most of people unexpected…
    that’s why there’ are no comments here 🙂

  2. mahesh chendake Says:

    Axinia,
    I think It is common understanding of people that when they follow their own religious teaching without objection,they open the door of haven.when I say without objection, as it has got more importance, lot of religious practices either outdated or loose its importance and still people are following with fear of GOD or impose to follow by certain people. I always seen people’s dual nature, as either they follow or break the rule of religion for their self purpose/ motives and try to impose on other,giving God’s fear. beyond that people think that, work of such religious people like Brahman,or father of church is always great and not objectionable. The work they are doing is the only divine work, adds in their spirituality. where true spirituality lies in some where other different work as author said ” creative work” or ” vibrational work” which not only “Brahman” or “Father of Church” has to do but it’s every body’s birth right ( SAHAJ ) . It is not important whether they follow religious teaching or not or How they enjoy social security and freedom in daily living within society.? And that “vibrational work” does guarantee of their social security and true spiritual upbringing.
    This is my understanding from your blog. May be need further discussion for clarification
    It is not clear me that “in order to attain what are only the natural and self-evident blessings of life we must sacrifice our spiritual and social freedom.” from that what is meaning for natural and self evident blessing of life, and how they differ from spiritual upbringing? please clarify as you read whole book.
    “the right to be free from the yoke of poverty and the oppression of power-hungry groups, the right to well-being, the right to all forms of free creative work and the public unveiling of the fruits of that work, the right to religious searchings, and the right to beauty.”
    It is very clear to me and seems very true for my understanding specially that one i like””the right to be free from the yoke of poverty and the oppression of power-hungry groups…. anyway all rights are totally innovative and definitely having different and very good meaning.. which assures also a different path and its benefits apart form current religious work and teaching,which needs to be understand clearly.
    as usual thanks for very nice and thought provoking blog of “Your” stranded. For me ,It take lot of time to understand and repeated reading and still feels not clear…. needs further reading.

  3. mahesh chendake Says:

    WHY all true religious, revolutionary people like Jesus, and all saints like Gnyashwarji, all scientists Lot’s of Author’s were punished severely and deny for social mixing and Peace full leaving? Story repeated in each era of evolution.b,cause by n large people are not in state of spiritual evolutionary understanding and religious/political leader do not allow, as their importance will reduce . It is the Nature only who proves their , “work’s” importance.The main important point what I always consider is ,What is true spirituality? And unfortunately no body is having correct answer. People are trying to find out that but as usual fact’s become ” The story of five Blinds and one elephant” Those who perceive the way, thinking that is only truth and denying others.
    Hope practice of ” vibrationally work ” will take people that level of understanding and uplift their spirituality so by n large people will understand clearly the difference between right and wrong and practice right things,including religious practices. and most importantly the people who are practicing ” creative work/ Vibrational work ” will not be punished and socially banned. and that’s why author said it birth right.

  4. mahesh chendake Says:

    It is common tendency of people to remain in group and follow group ‘s rule, as they are passive, As group provides social security and fulfillment of most of individual needs . Most of the time those rule are not made by spiritually evolved people and still they influence the group by various means like power,fear, money etc… and True seekers have to suffers always as usual due to opposition within group.
    so the answer for this is, the quality and quantity of true seekers in society should be increased but unfortunately one’s ego and conditioning’s not permitting and not making it possible. It is the people when they will practiced” creative work” at individual level in large group then only it will possible.

  5. Axinia,

    …the absolute value of individuals and their divine birthrights: their right to be free from the yoke of poverty and the oppression of power-hungry groups, the right to well-being, the right to all forms of free creative work and the public unveiling of the fruits of that work, the right to religious searchings, and the right to beauty.

    The right of people to a secure existence and to the enjoyment of the benefits of civilization is an inborn right that in itself does not necessitate a renunciation of freedom or spirituality.

    I think that could very well be my favourite quote from entire book of the wise bubble-dwelling dreamer Daniel Andreev.

    Andreev has got it spot on in stating those lines! I completely agree with him on that!

    Many clueless people have an idea that rights and freedoms, including human rights are things that are given to them by constitutions and laws. That is a disgusting, primitive regressive way of thinking.

    No constitution or law or even God for that matter can give humans their rights and freedoms. Human Rights are INBUILT into humans, an unalienable PART of them ever since they were born in this world. Only a clueless gullible naive person would believe that it is a constitution or laws or God that gives one rights and freedoms.

    Good constitutions strive to make its citizens aware of this. The US constitution (perhaps THE best one out there) tries hard to make this SO clear to its citizens (though it has been practically destroyed completely by successive US gubmints). It makes it crystal clear that a person’s human rights are inalienable and that no gubmint or law can take away their rights. That’s another reason why the first world is the first world, their constitutions try to make their populace aware of their inalienable rights and freedoms.

    Filthy constitutions on the other hand (like the turdy, disgusting, worthless constitution of the evil Indian empire) try hard to make it sound to the turd-headed pea-brained people that rights and freedoms are given by constitutions, laws and are subject to the whims and fancies of the regime in power. That’s another reason why the uncouth turd world countries are so regressive, barbaric, feudal, crime-and-rot-infested and filthy.

    No civics book anywhere in the world will ever teach or even suggest this simple truth. Why? It’s because most education systems are controlled by the very regimes who want to TAKE away the human rights of peoples. That’s why all the filthiest regimes (like the sub-human Indian gubmint and the lowly criminal scum being known as its HRD minister) in the world try to take full control of education systems, lock, stock and barrel. Education system is the best brainwashing tool as the commie regimes have already shown. A regime which seeks greater control over the school education system under various guises (supported in this by its voracious arse-lickers) is an evil one, which does not have the interests of the populace in mind. It has been proved time and again.

    People who are civilised enough and intelligent enough to see right through this understand it very well. The education system in the civilised First World has been deliberately dumbed down repeatedly by their respective gubmints under various pretexts. Many are now little more than commie brainwashing systems of the young, naive, impressionable and gullible minds since they are under complete gubmint control. Such lowly, gubmint controlled education systems don’t make the children aware of their rights and freedoms, don’t instill a system of ethics in them, teach very little useful stuff while overburdening the students with plenty of completely useless stuff.

    It’s all a part of the evil plan to turd worldise the civilised societies and it has been going on for some time now. It’s aimed at turning the education delivering system in the first world into a gubmint-controlled literacy delivering system. Just like the ones in the lowly, uncouth turd world, since the worthless turd-world hordes are too pea-brained to distinguish between literacy and education. In any case, the filthy parts of the uncouth turd world are full of hordes who aren’t even literate, let alone educated.

    🙂

    • Avdhut Says:

      No constitution or law or even God for that matter can give humans their rights and freedoms. >

      Do you know what ‘God’ is ?

    • Avdhut Says:

      You feel a great despair that tears your heart apart ?

      • Do you know what ‘God’ is ?

        I’ve described what I believe “God” is in my other comment. If you believe you know “God” well enough to question my knowing what “God” is, then congratulations! 🙂 I have absolutely no intention of bursting your bubble 😐

        Do say “Hi!” and convey my respects to “God” on my behalf when you sit with “Him” for a cup of coffee.

        🙂

      • You feel a great despair that tears your heart apart ?

        You believe I have a heart that feels great despair when others (who aren’t even known to me) are subjected to intolerable suffering by satanic, sub-human, sadistic scum beings? Then I sincerely thank you from the bottom of that very heart!

        I’m pleasantly surprised as I wasn’t expecting confirmation in such a dramatic manner from you. It vindicates my stand and proves that I’m on the right path, the one that I want. Thank you so much for the confirmation!

        🙂

  6. First worlders better watch out! Most of the first world education systems are being reduced to turd world literacy systems by their very own gubmints, as a part of a nefarious overall plan to turn them into turd worlders. If they allow it to continue, within a couple of decades, the first world may even become home to large numbers of illiterates and semi-literates, like the filthy parts of the uncouth turd world.

    I’m glad that many first worlders (and a rapidly growing number at that) are able to see right through this nefarious plan. And are resisting it. By taking their children out of the gubmint-controlled education system and schools and putting them into much better private schools that actually teach more useful and worthy stuff. Unfortunately, I understand that private schools are quite expensive in the civilised societies and many common people cannot afford them, especially if they have more than one school-going child.

    That should explain why home-schooling is becoming a rage in the civilised societies. And I agree with the parents. What better way to ensure that one’s children grow up to be good human beings, than by educating them on their own, teaching them worthy stuff and not subjecting the young impressionable minds to the crap of the gubmint-controlled system? As anyone with even half-a-brain can understand, education is NOT a once-size-fits-all thing like the crappy model that gubmint-controlled teaching shops employ.

    Education is NOT exactly just teaching stuff. Education is NOT pouring facts from the jug (the teacher’s mouth) into the glass (the students’ mind). Educating is NOT a process done by teachers. It’s something done by the students themselves. It is the mainly the process of LEARNING and training the mind to learn on its OWN. Teachers are just facilitators in the process of education. As they say, you can take the horse to the water, but you cannot make it drink.

    Teachers cannot “educate” the children, they can merely facilitate it, make it easy. It is the students who have to educate themselves. Good teachers realise this, understand the level of difficulty for each student and proceed to facilitate the process of education on an individual basis. How can this ever be carried out well at an overcrowded gubmint-controlled teaching shop that is more interested in indoctrinating than educating???

    That’s why classes with low student strength learn faster and better. Logically extending this, a class with the lowest possible student strength (i.e. 1 or one) should learn best and the fastest. That is what home-schooling is. It’s no coincidence that the MOTHER is the first teacher (and usually the best one) and that learning first takes place right in the womb of the mother (with father coming later). Homeschooled students do not have to miss out on the socialising activities of being among other children of their age at school, since they can play and take part in sports and other activities with other home-schoolers and even school-going kids after school hours. And if the parents are not comfortable in making them understand certain advanced topics, they can take the help of teachers and professors for those. Ideally, parents homeschooling their kids would form groups for such activities.

    Sadly, I guess homeschooling can be done only if at least one parent has the time and will for it i.e. be at home, work from home or have a part-time/flexi-time job and take upon the difficult but rewarding task. In a world where it’s very difficult for an average family to lead a comfortable life on a single income, this may be unthinkable. And in a rapidly descending society like America, where both parents are sometimes forced to take up more than one job to create a decent life for their children, it turns out to be impossible. It’s a pity, since America’s heavily gubmint-controlled public schools generally seem to be the worst in the civilised world.

    🙂

    • Avdhut Says:

      OOOOHHH, ‘Turd (Third) Worlders’ , :-), Yes I did once hear Sri Mataji say that the west would have to become like the ‘third world’ before they understood the significance of Love.

      I’m getting to understand you now Raj, I guess your language might help the situation if the wrong-doers feel hurt by it and try to make amends, but you’ll have to be ready with the right alternative isn’t it !? Peace inside reflected in one’s actions…

    • Yes, TURD Worlders! 🙂 Or should I call them by what they are – uncouth, unethical, unevolved, pea-brained, sadistic, barbaric hordes of regressive, criminalised, sub-human savages (a large majority of them in any case).

      Do note that by “turd world”, I do not exactly mean the outdated Cold War terminology of First World, Second World and Third World. The Cold War is history and when it ended, almost the entire Second World deservedly ceased to exist in that form.

      I don’t mean the “West” or the “East” either because they are very misleading. The civilised societies of Oceania do not come under the “West” geographically. And there are plenty of savage, uncouth, barbaric countries in the Western hemisphere. And what about the few civlised societies of the Far East? They are not “Western” by any stretch of the imagination. They are as far in the “East” as possible (both geographically and culturally) and yet they happen to be highly civilised.

      Nor do I mean things like wealth and the like. They only form a small part of the civilisational quotient and even this part is formed NOT by absolute wealth or GDP as such, but by wealth distribution, socio-economic indicators and mobility, attitude towards the poor etc. There are plenty of examples of societies rolling in tremendous wealth and yet existing at the level of mediaeval sub-humanism. On the other hand, there are examples of societies of quite modest means exhibiting quite a high level of civilisational achievement.

      So what do I mean by the TURD world? As opposed to the civilised world and civilised socities, turd world societies are satanic, barbaric, uncouth, cess-pits (over)populated by rapidly overbreeding hordes and hordes of unevolved, sadistic, uncivilised, unethical, pea-brained savages with an ethical intelligence quotient that is close to zero or goes into the negative.

      Such evil lands exist at the level of primitive, mediaeval barbarism and thier lowlife hordes are barely human. Just because a creature is biologically human does not necessarily mean that it behaves like a human. Ice, drinking water, hot steam, rain water and sea water are all the same chemically (H20) and yet they all exist in vastly different states of being despite being the same substance. The same is true of the evolutionary and ethical level of the biologically same hominoid hordes.

      In fact, many such creatures would put even bloodthirsty beasts to shame when it comes to their uncouth nature. Bloodthirsty beasts are by nature predators and they primarily kill for food (and only very rarely do they kill members of their own species). UNLIKE certain turd world creatures, they DO NOT exhibit the sheer sadistic sub-human thrill that the lowlife hordes derive when they cause suffering and gleefully watch the suffering caused on their turdy behalf.

      So yes, I use TURD world to denote those filthy, uncouth, sub-human societies. “Third World” has not only lost its meaning in the Cold War context, but it also sounds too polite (first, second, third as in gold, silver, bronze), a politeness the turd world savages don’t deserve due to their sheer uncouthness. Their filthy behaviour and criminalised, sadistic, barely human mindsets deserves an apt term, and TURD world is perfectly suited for the purpose!

      🙂

      • Avdhut Says:

        …I’m reminded of how Ghandiji turned his back on the political narrow-mindedness that presceded the partition, turning his attention instead to wandering the villages in a bid to teach hygiene and how to build proper toilet facilities…today the attention is on building ever higher towers in a bid to escape the grime…heads in the clouds full of delusion.

        Satyam Jayate !

        • Gandhi? Hahaha 😆 What a joke he is turning out to be! 😆

          Think of a satanic, filthy, murderous, sub-human septic tank of an evil empire that carries M. K. Gandhi’s image on every one of its currency notes. Let me see, Mohandas Gandhi supposedly stood for non-violent methods, didn’t he?

          What does the filthy septic tank called the evil Indian empire that has been run by a line-up of filthy fake Gandhis (for the most part of its existence) do ever since the satanic Indian empire broke off from the British empire? The sub-human, filthy, murdeorous, evil Indian empire has descended to depths that even the British empire NEVER did. Right since the sub-human Indian empire was formed, it has indulged in a campaign of bloody murder, evil, murderous occupation and complete and satanic oppression of helpless nations and peoples.

          Immediately upon breaking off from the British empire, the sub-humanly evil septic tank called the Indian empire engaged in a bloody campaign of murderous aggression and rapacious occupation against many of its smaller neighbouring nations and peoples – Indian-occupied Kashmir, Nagalim, Manipur, Mizoram and many other parts of the North-East, not to mention Hyderabad, Junagadh and later Goa. Of course, its fellow empire, the turdy Pakistani empire engaged in similar barbaric aggression and occupation.

          But the satanic shit pit called the sub-human Indian empire and its voraciously arse-licking hordes that (over)populate it have plunged even further into the path of absolute evil. The sub-human fake Gandhis and their arse-licking hindoid hordes introduced filthy, satanic laws that were never there during the days of the British empire – laws like the satanically evil AFSPA that gives the rabid, semi-literate mercenary swine of the Indian empire total and absolute impunity to commit the most heinous and barbaric crimes against humanity with sadistic glee.

          It’s typical of the hindoid hordes and the sub-humanly evil septic tank called the evil Indian empire to have Gandhi on its currency notes and his name everywhere and at the same time indulge in a campaign of bloody barbarism and criminalised sub-humanism. After all we are talking about the world’s most satanically evil, murderous, sub-human LIARS, CHEATS and HYPOCRITES of all time. An empire of sub-human hordes so uncouth, evil and barbaric that even satan would cringe at their bloody savagery and sordid sadism.

          Gandhi? 😆 Ever heard of a courageous woman called Irom Sharmila Devi? I bet you haven’t – the sub-human septic tank called the evil Indian empire and its filthy arse-lickers would do all they can to prevent their sub-humanism and evil sadism from being known.

          Irom Sharmila has been on a fast for TEN YEARS now. Yes, ten long years she has refused to take even a morsel of food to protest against the filthy Indian empire’s sub-human sadism, the evil hypocrisy and lies of the hindoid filth beings and the sheer sadism of its sewery mercenary dogs occupying the oppressed nations and brutalising, raping, butchering and terrorising their peoples. And how have the satanic Indian empire and its sub-human hordes treated her? They have beaten her, arrested her, put her in prison for long years, tortured her, force-fed her with a permanent tube in her mouth and so on. Why? All because she is protesting against the sub-humanism, evil and barbarism of the satanic Indian empire and the sheer sadism and murderous rapacious evil of its semi-literate mercenary dogs occupying the oppressed nations and committing heinous atrocities against their peoples and the world’s most evil law – the filthy AFSPA that gives the semi-literate mercenary swine the impunity to do any evil with glee in their turdy, filthy hearts and sewery souls.

          And you talk of Gandhi 😆 Look at how Gandhi was treated by the British empire and look at how Irom Sharmila IS treated by the sub-human Indian empire and its filthy arse-licking hordes of savage scum beings. Any pea-brained idiot and his dog can see that the British empire behaved in far better way than the sub-human Indian empire does if you compare Gandhi and Irom Sharmila. Of course, the British Indian empire NEVER had a law as filthy as AFSPA to oppress and brutalise the occupied peoples. But the satanic Indian empire does and goes further than even the British empire or even the Nazi hordes for that matter. What else can one expect of the filthiest sub-human creatures in all of hominoid history – the lowlife hindoid hordes? They truly are the scum of humankind, the filth beings of the universe! 😡

          And you talk of political narrow-mindedness? 😆 Why don’t you put that into practice yourself and tell the sub-human hordes that (over)populate the filthy Indian empire that they have to behave as humans do? Why don’t you tell the sadistic sub-humans that their evil deeds and hypocrisy are so despicable and obvious that it evokes a sense of disgust in any sane, decent, conscientious human being? Of course, I bet you wouldn’t and for reasons that both you and I know very well. Therein lies the problem.

          🙂

          • Avdhut Says:

            None of that was Ghandi’s fault. So what good was he ? The ‘problem’ is that people have to find that out for themselves by the suffering they inflict upon themselves by their mistakes.

            There is absolute truth, and it’s sign is Love, Love that will speak the truth for the sake of the pure innocent spirit that exists in every human being giving them the spark of life.

            The physical form harmonises with the autonomy of that life force within when the individual gives up their ‘I’ness and surrenders a child-like heart to the forces of creation and evolution that nurture and sustain us. Then one feel innately content, compassionate, couragesly truthful, joyfully blissfull, and silent within.

            It has to be asked for because freedom is the greatest ‘God’ given gift ALL human beings have, so it cannot be forced on anyone. Peace does not come that way.

            BUT, The forces of creation are such that if one does not surrender the ego, lust, anger, greed, hatred and jealousy, then they suffer by virtue of the fact that they deny their higher, subtler, benign nature, and as there is order within the chaos, determining the path of those who withdraw their minds from the battle field and engage with their hearts surrendered to the divine within, those who think they are the doer stay on the perifery, lost in the chaos they perpetuate by their egotistical hatred, anger, lust, and greed…lost and despairing silently inside and taking it out on others…bully’s 🙂

            I live to tel this to everyone and do, to show that no’one has to suffer if they don’t want to no matter what their situation, and thesooner theywake up and show the tormenter that they are beyond affliction of the mind, body, and soul, joyful with each and every moment as it exists, alive simply to the miracle of each in breath and that moment in eternity, and each moment in eternity as they may be belssed to LIVE, because they are one with that which created everything, complete, without need, provided for and satisfied, EVEN IF THEY ONLY LIVED FOR THAT ONE MOMENT and that were all they experienced, nothing would be more fullfilling than thejoy of existing for that moment, and each moment there after, for, things can only really exist in the present moment, the rest is just an illusion of expectation and remorse fabricated by a primitive mind….I am happy when I can tell them that…then they laugh in an embarresed kind of way and dismiss me as a fool, turn away, and then look back in incomprehension…’Is he really mad ? Or, …’ for a split second, ‘ …could it be he has just what I have been looking for ever since I was a boy, that which I could never get and have been trying so hard to achieve with all my hard work, heseems to have from doing what? Nothing ? But what… he must be kind of great…’ then the green-eyed little monster starts riggling in their belly and they feel sick, and to get out of it they get back to the business of filling that enormous insatiable whole in their belly that never seems to have enough and drives them crazy with it’s incompleteness.

            And so all ‘un-enlightened, un-civilised’ try to find satisfaction, reason, and peace, through matter and the physical form, when actually, the answer is much closer and intimately connected with them than they could ever bear to face because of fear …fearful to accept that something higher within them, something divine, that ought to be cherished, innocence, will solve all the hardship in an instant should they just accept their wrongdoing.

            I love to tell this to people, it is the only way. I don’t dress up in fine garments and parade around in a bubble, I am a simple downtrodden man, PROUD in that I know I have all I need within me to be complete and joyfully in awe of the miracle that is life, like a little child, except thatI have the wisdom to know that what I have is a treasure far more valuable than any achievement of man or woman could supply, naturally, innately, spontaneously, effortlessly, simply by opening my heart…I tell it straight and make sure people realise how foolish they are in their floundering and flustering self-pity, lust, greed, and hatred.

            My friend, the only way you can defeat the wicked is to stop squandering your freedom on hatred and show the wicked, loud and clear, with full throaty jopyfulness, THAT YOU DON’T NEED THEM…then…go and build an empire of goodness and right, amongst people, awakening what is there in the heart, of EVERYONE…

            …but no, you can’t, because you are swallowed up by hatred and so they have won. EVIL HAS GOT YOU AND THE WICKED ARE LAUGHING, you make them feel powerful. They love it when they upset people, it gives them an opportunity to pretend sympathy, and ever more power to decieve.

            You are relying on their conscience and some mis-placed expectation that they will somehow relent and apologise to you, if not you will kill yourself, or be killed by someone more fanatical than you, and will have wasted your life. rather than live it how it should be lived instead of demanding recompense from those who thrive on not giving it…hmmmm!!

            Sorry, but you have so much more freedom than any of the suffering legends, so long as you have a mind, and heart, hands and feet, you can set about doing the right thing instead of whining and complaining in your hatred like a sick puppy. Stand up and have some self-respect and if you ahve any goodness in your heart you will act on it to prove that goodness does exist…know yourself, and stop complaing about other.

            And don’t write me anymore of your whining filthy letters. Wake up and live right, it’s the only way, unless you already hate yourself like you do everyone else.

            You don’t know me, where I’ve been, what I’ve been through, or what I do now, and I find your willingness to assume to know and dump your ‘turd’ all over everyone pretty childish. Begone!!!! Idiot….

            Someone who knows themselves, having surrendered the ego

            of the need for humility to ‘God’, for peace within, generosity, and for satisfaction with whatsoever we recieve from nature, putting back at least as much as we take.

            • Avdhut Says:

              Is this the solution for you, to use your tremendous intellect to vent your frustration on everyone, to outwit others in a bid to give yourlife some meaning, or do you have something else going on that’s not so feeble…are you DOING something good, or ahve you given up on that too, basically, if you have, then you’re just wasting yours and every body elses time here. So rant and rave and cast your clever wit, it is as Ghandiji’s face on the dirty rupeya. What about the GOOD things Raj, why do you only focus on the bad? Does it make someone great because they can see the bad and try to froce everyone to only look at that, asif that is all there is…at the end of the day you are as much responsable as everyone else so long as all you do is snap and whine…WHO ARE YOU !!! Ask yourself that and see how you feel…THAT is what’s important, because that can make all the difference.

              I’m not even sure if you can clearly define who is right and wrong anymore so it looks like you are on your own with this one.

              • to use your tremendous intellect to vent your frustration on everyone, to outwit others in a bid to give yourlife some meaning

                Hey, look… first of all I DON’T believe I have any great “intellect” NOR do I seek to “outwit” anyone NOR do I seek any meaning in life doing so. It’s only the assumption of your ego. And I’m not “venting my frustration” here as I know much better ways to utilise “frustration” and “anger”.

                What about the GOOD things Raj, why do you only focus on the bad?

                Because Avdhut, there are enough people to focus on the “good” things and more importantly, inadvertently whitewash the “bad” ones in the process. When this happens so thoroughly that people begin to see nothing but “good” in sheer evil and sub-human things, I’m forced to call a spade a spade and expose evil for what it is. The world is a very different place outside that warm and cosy self-made bubble.

                Does it make someone great because they can see the bad and try to froce everyone to only look at that

                No, it doesn’t. Not anymore than someone who can see only the good and force everyone to look at that and believe “all is good and all is love” where “all” includes even the most sub-human and evil stuff.

                I’m not even sure if you can clearly define who is right and wrong anymore so it looks like you are on your own with this one.

                I don’t care about WHO is right or wrong. That is superficial, secondary and immaterial. I don’t confuse it with the things that really matter. Rather, I care about WHAT is right or wrong and I can clearly define it, as clear as day. Not that it would matter or mean much to someone lost inside who believes there is no right or wrong, good or evil, because “all is love, all is beautiful” 🙄 inside that self-made bubble.

                🙂

                • Avdhut Says:

                  I don’t care about WHO is right or wrong>

                  If that were the case YOU wouldn’t do anything.

                    • Avdhut Says:

                      You must think you are right, or you wouldn’t say anything.

                      You must think I am wrong or you wouldn’t have expected me to react negatively to you.

                      What and Who in this regard are the same thing because it matters to you who holds what viewpoints.

                    • Thanks for the explanation.

                      You must think you are right, or you wouldn’t say anything.

                      No, your assumption about my thinking is wrong. I don’t necessarily think I’m right. I’ve been wrong quite a few times before and have openly acknowledged it and accepted it once I’ve learned what was right. I’m not like those sub-humans who believe whatever evil they (or those who do the dirty work for them) do is right just because they do it (or support the ones who do it).

                      What and Who in this regard are the same thing

                      No, they AREN’T! They may seem the same to you because you cannot separate evil deeds from the ones who do it or good deeds from the ones who do it. So what and who seem the same to you.

                      They ARE NOT the same to me because I don’t see people as good and evil. I only see their DEEDS as good and evil, civilised and uncouth, human and sub-human. I can clearly distinguish between WHO and WHAT and if you’re not able to do that, then that is not my problem.

                      Of course, I’ve used terms such as sub-human, uncouth, barbaric etc. to describe certain lowlife hordes. In your anger at seeing those terms and your inability to distinguish between who and what, you assume that just like you, I cannot distinguish between who and what. I use those terms NOT because I cannot distinguish between who and what, but because the hordes I so describe are constantly proving themselves to be incapable of ethical thinking. They insist whatever evil they do is right however uncouth and sub-human it may be and licking the arses of those who do evil. It’s in that context I use those terms.

                      If they prove themselves capable of behaving like decent humans, then I’ll gladly stop using those terms. But it looks like expecting such a behaviour out of them will remain a pipe dream.

                      🙂

                • Avdhut Says:

                  Not that it would matter or mean much to someone lost inside who believes there is no right or wrong, good or evil, because “all is love, all is beautiful” inside that self-made bubble>

                  Hmmm, yes very silly people….does my acknowledging that help you at all ?

          • None of that was Ghandi’s fault

            Of course, not. Did I say it was??? It’s all the fault of the hypocritical, lying , cheating, deceiving, shameless, murderous, barely human hordes who use Gandhi’s image on every currency note and loudly mouth his name and yet behave much worse and more evil than the things Gandhi was fighting against with his fasts, non-violence and civil disobedience.

            That’s why the satanic hordes assassinated Gandhi as soon as the evil Indian empire broke off from the British empire. If he were alive, who knows, he may have spoken up for the suffering peoples under the brutalisation and oppression of the satanic Indian empire and even taken up a fast to put an end to their plight. Unlike they do to Irom Sharmila Devi, the sub-human hordes of the evil Indian empire would never have been able to do the same to Mohandas Gandhi. That’s why they had him assassinated so that the sub-humans can continue with their filthy acts that puts the British empire or even the Nazi lowlives to shame.

            You don’t know me, where I’ve been, what I’ve been through, or what I do now

            Of course, I don’t know you. Did I ever claim I knew you or even your name for that matter? To be frank, I couldn’t care less about who you are and give a damn about where you have been! 🙂

            and I find your willingness to assume to know

            Nonsense! You ASSUME that I assume to know, when I clearly mention I don’t even know you or your name for that matter.

            EVIL HAS GOT YOU AND THE WICKED ARE LAUGHING, you make them feel powerful

            No, it HAS NOT! One who exposes evil and calls a spade a spade TERRIFIES evil and makes them feel like the satanic sub-humans that they are and stuns their filthy sadistic hearts. Those scum are terrified of the truth, hate the truth and stay as far away from it as possible as it exposes their BIG LIES, HYPOCRISY, DECEPTION and SADISM. Evil cannot possess someone who calls a spade a spade and exposes the sheer sub-humanism of the evil deeds.

            On the other hand, THE WICKED ARE SILENTLY LAUGHING ONLY AT YOU and CHEERING YOU. They know very well that it is people like YOU who make them SO powerful. They know they can do any evil and sub-human deeds their filthy hearts want and as long as there are people like YOU to look the other way or mouth some totally unrelated stuff about “inner self” when confronted by their evil deeds or attempt to explain it away or even justify it using silly bubble concepts, they know YOU are indirectly supporting their turdy deeds. People who withdraw from the battle into a bubble are NOT surrendering to the so-called “divine within”, they are just of indirect assistance to evil side. Inadvertent yes, but collaborators they certainly are! 🙂

            That’s why they are LAUGHING at YOU, knowing very well that they have another unpaid, indirect supporter who inadvertently does a lot of PR work in covering up their evil deeds by asking people to look away from evil or look “inwards” to answers that lie in external deeds. Evil thrives in this world ONLY because the supposedly good ones do nothing or say nothing. Evil derives its lifeblood indirectly from such unfortunate people. Evil loves something that can whitewash its sub-humanism by making people look away, look elsewhere or deflect attention from its uncouthness. Someone like YOU who does such things, albeit inadvertently.

            Don’t even think you will be spared when the evil comes for you. It’s better to oppose evil lock, stock and barrel, fight it and go down in a blaze of ethical glory IF one cannot overcome it. At least, great rewards await such courageous martyrs in the afterlife.

            A worse fate awaits those who inadvertently do PR work for evil, those unfortunate, deluded souls who believe evil completely ceases to exist merely if they “see no evil, hear no evil, sense no evil” even if it is right IN FRONT OF them. Not only will they fall victim to the evil which they deliberately ignored and looked away as it was ravaging, but they will get the rudest shock 😯 of their lives just before they do so. A really pitiable way to have their bubbles burst 😐

            (Of course, the worst fate of them all awaits those vile, sadistic, sub-human souls who gleefully support and justify evil and derive a sub-human sadistic thrill in their filthy hearts whenever they get to enjoy evil committed on their turdy behalf. The fate that awaits such scum beings is too horrible to be even described here.)

            And don’t write me anymore of your whining filthy letters

            Do you think you are “God” that I should write you whining letters? Or do you think you are Santa Claus? I didn’t even write to you in the first place! It was YOU who wrote to me on several posts, trying to make an effort to supposedly “understand me”, find out “what’s up” and so on. Not that I have any great necessity to write to you anymore as I can see where you stand by your latest reply. I could not refuse to reply when you address me directly, could I? So if you want me to stop writing, it has to begin with the one who initiated it in the first place, and that is YOU.

            Begone!!!! Idiot….

            😆 I was expecting this from you all this while 🙂 Even in my “filthy rantings and ravings” I was decent enough NOT to indulge in a lowly personal attack, refrained from calling you names and showed you basic decency and courtesy. But of course, once your ego tipped past its point of assumed decency and superficial politeness, it revealed its true colours by indulging in a lowly personal attack when you could not find answers to the arguments.

            It shows you have a whole lot to do in working on your ego and its failings. Good luck to you in that endeavour 🙂 I’m tempted to reply with a tit-for-tat lowly personal attack and name-calling, BUT I WON’T. As uncouth and harsh as the words I use in a generalised context are, I’m NOT willing to STOOP DOWN to the level of YOUR EGO which indulges in lowly personal attacks and name-calling.

            🙂

            • Avdhut Says:

              deluded souls who believe evil completely ceases to exist merely if they “see no evil, hear no evil, sense no evil” even if it is right IN FRONT OF them. >

              hmmm…I don’t know anyone like that, do you ?

            • Avdhut Says:

              I was expecting this from you all this while .>

              Looks like you always expect the worst then. Perhaps that’s why it happened, ever thought of that ?

              • Avdhut Says:

                Those scum are terrified of the truth,>

                Are you afraid to even mention a few by name, not sure they know who they are, we can all guess, but your generalisation makes it look like you are the only person who cares, which I can safely say is not the case.

                • Avdhut Says:

                  Evil is an entity of it’s self, as is goodness, we all have potential to be either one of them, so the test is to choose wisely and emphasise one rather than the other. Of course, call a spade a spade, but it’s how you do that which will determine the end result.

                  • Avdhut Says:

                    They know they can do any evil and sub-human deeds their filthy hearts want and as long as there are people like YOU to look the other way>

                    You have no idea !!!

                    or mouth some totally unrelated stuff about “inner self” when confronted by their evil deeds>

                    What else is it about. Evil and goodness, both come from inside the human being, each according to the relationship of the mind to the heart.

                    or attempt to explain it away or even justify it using silly bubble concepts,>

                    All concepts are bubbles, limited, but useful, for those who are willing to listen.

                    Not taking part is not supporting. Is satyagraha supportive ? It’s not just a concept, it’s a strategy. But for that you need Swa-raj, which begins with the individual being able to control themselves, the ‘inner-self’ that contains the resolve to make a stand for truth and justice.

                    People who withdraw from the battle into a bubble are NOT surrendering to the so-called “divine within”, >

                    Only people who are surrendered to the ”divine within”, the ‘inner-self’, can fight the battle effectively.

                    Evil will destroy itself in the light of truth and Love. So yes, I will help evil to destroy itself, and concepts will also be weapons.

                    If it’s inadvertant then they can’t be blamed can they ?

                    • You have no idea !!!

                      It’s one thing on which I’ll be glad to be proven wrong, but it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen.

                      What else is it about

                      If you think “withdrawing to the inner self” and “seeing beauty in everything – good and evil” is going to combat evil, then I don’t want to burst your bubble 😐 Just consider the example of the filthiest cess-pool of evil, sub-human practices in the world, the satanic, turdy Indian empire. Despite the hordes and hordes of bubble-dwellers who walked upon it throughout the ages, it remains as uncouth, sub-human, barbaric and evil as it ever was. Solid proof, if any is needed, that bubble-dwelling has proven to be an EPIC FAIL!

                      All concepts are bubbles

                      Not all, but some i.e. the ones as seen from inside that bubble.

                      Not taking part is not supporting. Is satyagraha supportive

                      Not taking part and satyagraha are VERY different. Satyagraha is a DECLARED protest, a struggle against something. Merely “not taking part” is equivalent to turning a blind eye and looking the other way and even COLLABORATING, especially when something is done in YOUR name.

                      Only people who are surrendered to the ”divine within”, the ‘inner-self’, can fight the battle effectively.

                      You’re welcome to have your beliefs. Mine are very different. I don’t see it as even fighting the battle, but rather as fence-sitting and preferring to stay in those cosy bubbles.

                      Evil will destroy itself in the light of truth and Love.

                      Not when evil ITSELF is classified as a part of “Love” as in “ALL is Love, ALL is beautiful” 🙄

                      If it’s inadvertant then they can’t be blamed can they ?

                      That’s why I don’t blame them if you observe carefully. That’s why I deliberately use the word “inadvertent”.

                      🙂

                  • Evil is an entity of it’s self, as is goodness, we all have potential to be either one of them

                    Agreed! 🙂

                    so the test is to choose wisely

                    Of course, that’s what I’ve been saying all along 🙂

                    and emphasise one rather than the other

                    Yes, emphasise good by all means but evil can be belittled only by condemning it and NOT by ignoring or turning a blind eye.

                    Of course, call a spade a spade, but it’s how you do that which will determine the end result.

                    Agree on calling a spade a spade? Good. So how can you call a spade by a spade by turning a blind eye?

                • Are you afraid to even mention a few by name

                  No I’m not, but as I said, I’m not “God” to point ’em out individually.

                  but your generalisation makes it look like you are the only person who cares

                  Not at all! There are quite a few of ’em out there, and many of them are much more worthy and have done so much more than me with regard to this. I’ll be the first one to accept and acknowledge that, as I already have so many times.

              • I don’t always expect the worst. I try to prepare for the worst, and expecting is just a part of preparing.

                Prepare for the worst and hope for the best is a commonly heard strategy from many in different fields.

            • Avdhut Says:

              look “inwards” to answers that lie in external deeds.>

              All external deeds arise from an internal motivation. So the answer has to come from inside first. What is outside can lead a person to question themselves, but the resolve to change has to come from within. It’s a personal choice one makes because one wants good instead of evil.

              These concepts may be just bubbles, but they make sense when the information they transmit is put into action.

              The way to change evil into good is to show that good is more rewarding than evil.

              • So the answer has to come from inside first.

                It is NO answer as long as it stays inside and doesn’t come outside. The proof lies in all those bubble-dwelling hordes having walked upon the satanic cess-pool of a land, the demonic, sub-human Indian empire and yet it remains as filthy, savage, uncouth and evil as it ever was.

            • Avdhut Says:

              As opposed to the civilised world and civilised socities,>

              Do you know what the word Civil means ?

              turd world societies are satanic, barbaric, uncouth, cess-pits (over)populated by rapidly overbreeding hordes and hordes of unevolved, sadistic, uncivilised, unethical, pea-brained savages with an ethical intelligence quotient that is close to zero or goes into the negative.>

              Hmmm…

              So my ego is worse than yours, I seeeee….your a mental gymnast too.

              You will only reserve kind words for those who make you feel safe…

              How are people supposed to feel safe with you ?

              • Avdhut Says:

                As uncouth and harsh as the words I use in a generalised context are, I’m NOT willing to STOOP DOWN to the level of YOUR EGO which indulges in lowly personal attacks and name-calling.>

                Why take it personally ? I’m nothing to you remember ?! At least that’s the impression get.

                • Why take it personally ?

                  If you tell me “Begone!!! Idiot…” directly (as you did) and expect me NOT to take it personally, then I would have to begin to wonder if the lowly epithet you called me would have more meaning if it was applied to you.

                  I’m nothing to you remember

                  Yes, you are nothing to me. But wait, I am nothing to myself as well 😐 if you can understand what I mean.

                  🙂

                  • Avdhut Says:

                    No, I hoped you would take it personally and wake up to the fact that you are merely perpetuating the negativity by being so negative and dismissive all the time. It is OK to be skeptical of the people involved in this blog, but it is easy to tell by the way you write that you will never accept any suggestion that you may be wrong in your approach, and so, what are you doing here ? Are you here to try and make everyone feel as hopeless as you ?

                    I am trying to make myself a better person so I can contribute to change in a manner that the positive aspects of creation come to the fore, in order that people see there is an alternative. But you seem intent on doubting and being negative.

                    • Avdhut Says:

                      But wait, I am nothing to myself as well 😐 if you can understand what I mean.>

                      No wonder you have such a hopeless view on the possibilities.

                      As for ‘God’, God is TRUTH AND LOVE, and that is in all of those who choose to recognise it as the most important thing. The one who can’t accept that is lost.

                    • merely perpetuating the negativity by being so negative

                      Who is being “negative” 😕 The one who blindly believes “all is positive, all (including evil) is love” or the one who points out negative deeds, in the sincere hope that it can be stopped?

                      Ever heard of the lowlife monarchs of old who punished messengers because they hated to hear messages of their own failings? That’s the typical, uncouth mentality of the (vast majority) of regressive turd world hordes.

                      I am trying to make myself a better person

                      I’m genuinely happy to hear that and I respect you for it.

                      Are you here to try and make everyone feel as hopeless as you ?

                      If you are SO confident and hopeful about the success of your methods, then you WOULD NOT be affected in the least by anyone or anything who gives you a less than hopeful message. It’s only because you have some doubt, ever so slight and nagging, at the back of your mind, that you are affected by a message that may “sound” hopeless, but describes the situation as it is.

                      No wonder you have such a hopeless view on the possibilities.

                      That’s what you think.

                      As for “God”, “God” can be anything and everything depending on the way one looks at it. “God” can be “good” (as is commonly believed to be by most) but “God” can also be “evil” (to those satanist hordes who indulge in devil worship as well as those who do evil). That’s one reason why I write “God” withing quotes.

            • Avdhut Says:

              Someone like YOU who does such things, albeit inadvertently.>

              If it’s inadvertant then I can’t be blamed for it can I ? Are you God come to ‘wake me up’ then ?

            • Avdhut Says:

              Hmmmm…It was so decent of you to think so highly of me, especially when you didn’t know me…!?!

              Such a decent chap…

              I appreciate that your abhorance of injustice compels you, but I don’t see that you have any solutions, rather, your manner portrays you as one of the deceptive evil uncouth that you profess to abhor, that’s why \i called you an idiot…I have no problem with people calling me an idiot if I know they care for my well-being.

              Your whining letters ? All it is is complain complain complain, like all you want to do is bring people down …

              What do you want out of contributing to this blog ?

              • Avdhut Says:

                I was expecting this from you all this while 🙂 Even in my “filthy rantings and ravings” I was decent enough NOT to indulge in a lowly personal attack, refrained from calling you names and showed you basic decency and courtesy.>

                Hmmmm…It was so decent of you to think so highly of me, especially when you didn’t know me…!?!

                Such a decent chap…

                I appreciate that your abhorance of injustice compels you, but I don’t see that you have any solutions, rather, your manner portrays you as one of the deceptive evil uncouth that you profess to abhor, that’s why \i called you an idiot…I have no problem with people calling me an idiot if I know they care for my well-being.

                Your whining letters ? All it is is complain complain complain, like all you want to do is bring people down …

                What do you want out of contributing to this blog ?

            • Avdhut Says:

              I was expecting this from you all this while>

              I know.

            • Avdhut Says:

              Don’t even think you will be spared when the evil comes for you.>

              Jesus taught me how to deal with that scenario 🙂

              It’s better to oppose evil lock, stock and barrel, fight it and go down in a blaze of ethical glory IF one cannot overcome it. At least, great rewards await such courageous martyrs in the afterlife.>

              ‘Blaze of Ethical glory’ ??? The Islamic suicide bombers think they’re being ethical too don’t they ?! Thinking of taking some innocent ‘turdy hordes’ with you into the afterlife ?

              • …It was so decent of you to think so highly of me, especially when you didn’t know me…!?! Such a decent chap…

                😆 Thanks for the sarcastic compliment 🙂 But using uncouth, unparliamentary words in a generalised context, indecent as it may “sound”, isn’t quite the same as indulging in a lowly personal attack in an argument, even if it “sounds” decent.

                like all you want to do is bring people down …

                Ridiculous! I haven’t even attempted to “bring a single person down” (not the ones who read or write here) by any stretch of the imagination. If certain hordes bring themselves down once others begin to know the sheer savagery of their deeds & ways, then it’s THEY who bring themselves down by their own uncouth selves.

                What do you want out of contributing to this blog ?

                However antagonistic, opposed or irreconilable our views may be, I want exactly the same as you out of contributing and learning from this blog 🙂

                The Islamic suicide bombers think they’re being ethical too don’t they

                No, they very well know they are being unethical and killing themselves and others. But they have been pushed into it, by seeing their homes destroyed and turned into rubble, their parents killed in front of their eyes, their sisters raped by filthy turd beings and themselves being savagely tortured by satanic, sub-human scum beings.

                They DON’T seek to go down in “a blaze of ethical glory”. What they seek is different. It’s called REVENGE in case you did not know. They know what they are doing isn’t ethical by their own standards (Islam condemns suicide in the strongest terms, more than any other religion). But that’s what happens when sub-human, greedy, power-hungry criminals push them into it. When people lose all that they have and love, and have nothing left to lose, then THEY LOSE IT! That’s what pushes them into doing what they do.

                In any case, to be fair to those Islamic suicide bombers, what they do is no more (actually less) unethical than the actions of those sub-human scum who push them into it, or the power cabals that carry out false flag attacks that kill hundreds and thousands, or the Hindu terrorist outfits who set off serial bombs (not suicide attacks) in crowded markets and mosques (like Malegaon, Hyderabad, Ajmer and elsewhere) or the cowardly mercenaries who destroy marriage parties and vehicles carrying families and children half way around the world, as if they are playing a video game. Or the hordes of satanic “intelligence agencies” who use mercenaries to indescriminately set off bombs everywhere to further the evil ends of their filthy empires and gubmints.

                Thinking of taking some innocent ‘turdy hordes’ with you into the afterlife ?

                The turdy, criminalised, sadistic, arse-licking, sub-human hordes shall have to reap what they are sowing and when it’s harvest time, who knows what kind of bumper crops they would be harvesting? It’s upto “God” to decide such things, and as I have told you so many times before, I’m not “God”.

                🙂

                • Avdhut Says:

                  No, but God is in you.

                  • “God” happens to be one of those entities which can NEVER be defined clearly in ANY language. Most definitions of “God” are at best, only partially correct. Quite a few definitions of “God” happen to be outrageous, even if they are partially correct.

                    In other words, being an indefinable concept, “God” can be what one wants it to be. Certain books describe “God” as one who can be given a hundred or more titles describing “God’s” qualities. Good and fabulous as they sound, they are only partially correct. So are most other definitions of “God”.

                    If you think I’m one of those to whom you can hand a cup containing the definition of “God” and expect me to gulp it down, then all I can say is, “You would have to look elsewhere for one of those chaps”.

                    🙂

                  • Avdhut Says:

                    As for “God”, “God” can be anything and everything depending on the way one looks at it. “God” can be “good” (as is commonly believed to be by most) but “God” can also be “evil” (to those satanist hordes who indulge in devil worship as well as those who do evil). That’s one reason why I write “God” withing quotes. >

                    God in you is the pure desire that seeks peace. That exists in such a tangible and expressive form in human’s by virtue of evolution, though it exist within all things, that is why they fight. Fighting is part of the process of adapting and adjusting to changing circumstances, the process that drives evolution.

                    Wisdom prevails when it is realised that all we are fighting against is of our own making; ego.lust, anger, greed, etc. Then one just resigns ( which requires a lot of moral courage ) to ‘God’ , the GOoD within oneself, which is then ALLOWED to manifest via the autonomous nervous system, resulting in the NATURAL progression towards peace, ( as nature, by the laws of chaos, favours unity in diversity )developing the human being spontaneously, by virtue of that innate pure aspiration or desire, which is inconcious for most people, but gives rise to fear anger ( deviance / evil ) when it is not satiated.

                    Often it is not satiated because we believe from circumstances we have grown up in that it is necessary to be egotistical, which is basically a defence mechanism, much as animals resort to violence to defend territory. We see that as evil when it makes us feel fearful for ourselves or those we care about.

                    If one understands that people with such sub-human tendencies do not actually know any better and therefore are highly unlikely to change, one has to forgive them, lest one become hateful, and thus evil, oneself. Evil is driven by fear.

                    The presence of evil becomes even more apparent to one who recognises the potential for it within oneself, and therefore they will spend all their time ensuring they do not become evil themselves, once that is garunteed, then they will do what they can to try to remove the fear in the world that perpetuates the evil.

                    No, God is not a person, but it is in all people, some just don’t realise it.

                    Hope to speak to you again.

                    Lots of love my friend.

          • Avdhut Says:

            lol: Why don’t you put that into practice yourself and tell the sub-human hordes that (over)populate the filthy Indian empire that they have to behave as humans do? >

            Are you assuming I am not already doing so ? Or do you simply not know wether I am or not and would like to find out ? If so why not ask me ? Or do you really not care and are simply getting on with your thing ? Isn’t that ego ? We all have one and it’s necessary or else we would never do anything. It’s what you do with it that counts. Without Love and compassion it turns to evil . With love ego is there, but we go beyond it’s limitations. It’s your choice. IF YOU CAN’T MAKE THAT CHOICE THEN THE EVIL HAS ALREADY WON BY BLACKENING YOU HEART.

            You say you were expecting me to react from the ego, which suggests you think you know me already. That is what I find presumtious and offensive. It also makes you look idiotic because you are on the one hand demonstrating against evil and on the other not seeing where there is good.

            You can fight with Love, for a just cause, and kill if necessary, but the battle is only won when the fighting stops, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER BETTER THAN WHAT WAS BEFORE.

            Peace is power. Maybe you don’t understand Ghandi either ?

            You’ve already said you don’t care who I am. You might say you don’t want anyone to appreciate you. But that would be a lie. You want to appreciate yourself.

            I figure it’s at least as important to highlight the good alternative as it is to reveal the evil, otherwise, what’s the point ?

            Why not be like Ghandi yourself, that is what I am suggesting. Instead of just spouting foul words. You can call a spade a spade but what do you have to offer as an alternative to the evil ? Your humanity ? Is that what you are demonstrating by the language you use, that you care ??

            Everyone has their bubble. You are obviously trying, it is provocative, and no doubt has it’s place, but it is insufficent in itself. What do you have to offer other than your anger and intelligence ?

            • Avdhut Says:

              Albeit, if I had been in Ghandi’s position I would have told Jinnah and Nehru how bloody stupid they were for trying to imitate the gentility of the British.

              The only political system that will work to satisfy everyone’s needs and wants is one where all communities can remain true to their indigenous culture, peacefully, managing their own affairs according to the higher principles of human nature, something that has to be aspired to through self-enquiry. Trading surplus goods and supporting a central administration run by those who understand the equality of all human beings in light of the fact that none is greaterof lesser than the other and so none should take advantage of anyone else, or give advantage to the worng doer. Wrongness being that which goes against the freedom of another.

              How do we get to that point ? Well my friend, it will be a combination of you and me, and everyone else who has a passion for Truth and Love, neither of which is worth anythng without the other.

              • Avdhut Says:

                Gandhi? Hahaha 😆 What a joke he is turning out to be! :lol:>

                And I am supposed to assume from this that you respect Ghandi ?

                • You can assume what you want about me and I don’t care! As I previously stated, I respect persons by their deeds and not by who they are or what they claim to be (WHAT and not WHO).

                  If you cannot see how the satanic, evil, lying, hypocritical hordes who have Gandhi on their currency notes and mouth his name so loudly and yet do SO MUCH MORE EVIL themselves (than what Gandhi was against) have turned Gandhi into a BIG JOKE, then that is not my problem.

              • if I had been in Ghandi’s position I would have told Jinnah and Nehru how bloody stupid they were for trying to imitate the gentility of the British.

                The only political system that will work…

                Both Nehru and Jinnah were stupid in plenty of ways. The Brits too were stupid in quite a few ways. For all his wisdom, even Gandhi was not averse to doing a few stupid things either.

                Your hypothetical political system sounds good, but I doubt its practicality in this world. Nevertheless, the nuances and details of political systems are another topic on which we can discuss without any end.

                🙂

            • It also makes you look idiotic because you are on the one hand demonstrating against evil and on the other not seeing where there is good.

              If you want me to see “good” in sheer evil and sub-human deeds (NOT persons), then you have the wrong person. Look elsewhere for those. And if that makes me an “idiot” by your definition, I’m willing to wear that as a BADGE OF HONOUR. I certainly regard being classified as an “idiot” by someone who sees only “good” in a satanically evil, sadistic DEED as a badge of honour.

              Are you assuming I am not already doing so

              No, I don’t assume it as I don’t even know who you are. If you do it, then that’s well and good! But the attitude of your ego to someone who does so, is not usually a sign of someone who actually does it.

              You might say you don’t want anyone to appreciate you. But that would be a lie.

              A load of bull! I would absolutely hate to be appreciated by those who appreciate evil and sadism. Far from being appreciated, I don’t even mind and even welcome it if the sadistic, sub-human hordes hate me and despise me (as they do).

              You’ve already said you don’t care who I am… You want to appreciate yourself.

              Yes, and I’ll say it again, you are nothing to me. When I’m nothing to myself then what does it matter to me about who YOU are or may be? “Appreciating myself” cannot go together with “being nothing to myself”.

              I respect you as a fellow human and Earthling, respect you as someone who aims to look “within” to improve himself and (despite some direct and not-so-direct personal attacks and anger at my views) I respect your ability and wisdom to engage in constructive conversation. Beyond that, you are nothing to me, just as I’m nothing to myself 😐

              I figure it’s at least as important to highlight the good alternative as it is to reveal the evil, otherwise, what’s the point ?

              In your irrational hatred of my pointing out the evil ways of the savage hordes, you are blinded by any effort of mine to highlight the good alternative. Read carefully after getting rid of your anger and hatred towards me, and you will find that I repeatedly keep mentioning that, for humankind’s sake, the turd world hordes have to civilise themselves and become AT LEAST like the civilised societies, if not better. Not the other way round, as is happening on the planet today.

              IF YOU CAN’T MAKE THAT CHOICE THEN THE EVIL HAS ALREADY WON BY BLACKENING YOU HEART.

              😆 Evil doesn’t blacken the hearts of those who hate evil deeds and sadism, it stays far away. Evil wins by slowly surrounding the hearts of those who turn a blind eye to it, turns such a heart into a dead log of wood by suffocating it and finally burns it to ashes.

              Why not be like Ghandi yourself

              Gandhi’s methods ONLY work when the oppressors have at least some conscience and humanity inside their hearts, like the Brits from that time. It doesn’t work with savage, satanic, sub-human scum beings who don’t even have anything such as conscience, humanity and ethics inside their tiny pea-brains and filthy hearts. Don’t believe me? Just ask that courageous woman called Irom Sharmila Devi.

              Everyone has their bubble.

              Yes, everyone does have a bubble. I’ve found myself in a bubble a few times as well, and I’ve mentioned it elsewhere.

              🙂

          • Avdhut Says:

            I’m NOT willing to STOOP DOWN to the level of YOUR EGO which indulges in lowly personal attacks and name-calling.>

            Do you know what the word ‘Civil’ means ?

    • …the west would have to become like the ‘third world’ before they understood the significance of Love

      Though I don’t subscribe to that view, it may have some meaning in it 🙂

      You know, only when someone BADLY LACKS something or is badly affected by the ABSENCE of something, do they understand the value of that thing! 😐

      One may not know the value of water normally. But when one is lost in the middle of the desert, about to faint from thirst, exhaustion and the heat, even a glass of water would be worth more than a big pot of gold.

      Someone who has three hearty meals of fine food in a day may not care much about a loaf of bread or a pot of porridge. But for a starving, malnourished, hungry child, even a sandwich or a cup of gruel would seem like it was sent from heaven.

      A person in a civilised society may not understand the significance of love because they live in highly evolved, ethical socities which deserve to be classified as human. Only turd world hordes who live in satanic, uncouth, barbaric septic tanks may understand the significance of love 😐

      To realise the value of one year, put yourself in the place of a student who has failed a final exam;
      To realise the value of one month, put yourself in the place of a mother who has given birth to a premature baby;
      To realise the value of one week, put yourself in the place of an editor of a weekly newspaper;
      To realise the value of one day, put yourself in the place of a day labourer who leads a hand-to-mouth existence;
      To realise the value of one hour, put yourself in the place of lovers who are waiting to meet;
      To realise the value of one minute, put yourself in the place of a person who has missed the train, bus or plane;
      To realise the value of one second, put yourself in the place of a person who has survived an accident;
      To realise the value of one millisecond, put yourself in the place of a person who has won a silver medal in the Olympics…

      In the same vein,

      To realise the significance of love, I guess the civilised ones should put themselves in the place of the barely human turd world hordes who live in those uncouth, unethical, unevolved, barbaric, sadistic, savage, evil, turdy societies!

      As you can see from the above, understanding the significance of love does NOT mean that turd world societies are the epitome of humanity – in fact, it is the EXACT OPPOSITE of that, which is what I’ve been saying all along.

      I guess your language might help the situation if the wrong-doers feel hurt by it and try to make amends

      I realise that too. I get the feeling that such harsh words have absolutely no effect on the savage, sadistic, sub-human hordes. If they were decent beings or even proper human beings, they would immediately realise their uncouthness, barbarism, sadism, satanism, sub-humanism, lies, deception, trickery and hypocrisy and start behaving like normal human beings. But we are talking about the lowliest hominoid hordes here, and they have shown that they don’t even have the basic decency, humanism and self-introspection of a normal human being.

      but you’ll have to be ready with the right alternative isn’t it

      There is no alternative but for the one that makes the sub-human hordes realise the sheer uncouthness of their ways and make them take the path of a normal human being. Alas! It looks like it’s a hopeless cause. Not only will the savages NOT change their sub-human ways, but they will also forcibly pull down the civilised peoples as is happening in the world right now. This planet looks like it is doomed forever because of the sub-human hordes and their turdy deeds 😡

      At this rate, it looks like I’ll have no other option but to wait for 2012 or thereabouts, hoping against hope that the End Times prophecy comes true. It’s so much better to have the world destroyed for good (even if that means the obvious) rather than watch the turdy, savage, satanic hordes turn the planet in to a living hell 😐

      🙂

      • Avdhut Says:

        It’s so much better to have the world destroyed for good (even if that means the obvious) rather than watch the turdy, savage, satanic hordes turn the planet in to a living hell >

        Sounds like an evil idea to me !

      • Avdhut Says:

        I get the feeling that such harsh words have absolutely no effect on the savage, sadistic, sub-human hordes. >

        Well, they have an effect on me, so what does that make me, human or sub-human ? Do you really care ?

      • Avdhut Says:

        As you can see from the above, understanding the significance of love does NOT mean that turd world societies are the epitome of humanity – in fact, it is the EXACT OPPOSITE of that, which is what I’ve been saying all along.>

        Glad we got that straight at least .

      • Avdhut Says:

        A person in a civilised society may not understand the significance of love because they live in highly evolved, ethical socities which deserve to be classified as human. Only turd world hordes who live in satanic, uncouth, barbaric septic tanks may understand the significance of love >

        That’s not true. Anyone who knows themself will value Love because Love is the highest attribute of humanity, along with awareness of truth.

        • Avdhut Says:

          As for putting onesef in the shoes of the sufferer, well, that can only be done voluntarily. People can endure any extreme of mental and physical torture without giving up their evil, and why should they give it up to someone who was hurting them, even if it was just through verbal abuse.

        • Avdhut Says:

          As for putting onesef in the shoes of the sufferer, well, that can only be done voluntarily. People can endure any extreme of mental and physical torture without giving up their evil, and why should they give it up to someone who was hurting them.

        • Avdhut Says:

          Only turd world hordes who live in satanic, uncouth, barbaric septic tanks may understand the significance of love >

          So the ‘turd world hordes’ have some good in them? At least you’ve ascribed that potential to them. So there is hope after all. Thank goodness for that. I was beginning to wonder reading all your miserable letters.

        • Sounds like an evil idea to me !

          Not AS evil as letting and encouraging evil take over the world and turning it into a LIVING HELL for everyone.

          Well, they have an effect on me, so what does that make me, human or sub-human ?

          If it has an effect on you, then you certainly behave like a normal, decent human being and I respect you.

          That’s not true. Anyone who knows themself will value Love because Love is the highest attribute of humanity, along with awareness of truth.

          You’re welcome to your beliefs.

          As for putting onesef in the shoes of the sufferer, well, that can only be done voluntarily

          That is called compassion and love and those that cannot do it even non-voluntarily, are absolutely devoid of the same and deserve to be classified as… well, it’s obvious.

          So the ‘turd world hordes’ have some good in them? At least you’ve ascribed that potential to them. So there is hope after all.

          Yes, they obviously DO have potential in them. And there IS some hope, however faint and distant it may seem. When even scum beings (those creatures that live in stagnant ponds) have potential to evolve into something better or be useful to the planet and planetizens, how can “turd world hordes” not have the same? It’s upto them whether they are able to realise that potential or go down the turdy path they have chosen now.

          Thank goodness for that. I was beginning to wonder reading all your miserable letters.

          Again, in your irrational anger at some of my comments describing the misery and suffering they inflict on others and themselves, you did not see “those letters” did contain some hope or an alternative method.

          🙂

  7. My agreement with Andreev ends with that.

    I cannot understand why Andreev, when talking about religious monks and martyrs who did not do much for the development of human rights or transforming society, forgets the one glorious exception to that rule – the greatest martyr for humankind, the one person who has done more for human rights than anyone else, and that too in a regressive time and primitive age, when the concept of human rights could not even be understood by almost all the hordes who inhabited the planet at that time. I’m talking, of course, about Jesus Christ. (Who else can it be?) Was it because Daniel forgot him completely? Or was it because he viewed Christ more as “the Son of God” and therefore not as a normal mortal soul 😕

    In any case, by failing to mention Jesus, Andreev seems to ignore why some societies are civilised and others are uncouth and sub-human to the core, why only societies that came under the infuence of Christ’s teachings for a long time happen to be civilised in the modern world (with the exception of a handful in the Far East who were intelligent enough to learn and copy the aspects of civilised behaviour from such societies) while most others – the uncouth, rotten, filthy, barbaric societies (over)populated by savage, regressive, pea-brained hordes happen to wallow like pigs in the filth of barbarism, uncivilisation and sub-humanism.

    I know that I have made myself a hated undesirable to many here by daring to call a spade a spade. I know the use of certain less-than-polite words and phrases on my part doesn’t help either. But what’s the use of beating around the bush and trying to be polite. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. A rotten, uncouth, filthy, barbaric, regressive society by any other polite sounding phrase would still be as sub-human, primitive, savage and uncivilised. Because it simply is that way.

    I mean it is so obvious that it is undeniable. It’s a fact that among the millions and billions of rapidly-overbreeding barbarians that (over)populate the uncouth societies, only a few thousands (or tens of thousands at best) would try to behave or even think in a civilised manner. It’s an inborn feature among the unevolved, uncivilised, savage hordes to have a regressive herd mentality and believe in laws of the jungle since they are only one step removed from the wild herds that operate on their base animalistic instincts. Being pea-brained regressives and not having been through any kind of civilising influences, it’s natural for the savages to indulge in barbarism and uncouthness.

    If anyone had any thought that the savages would behave in a better manner than their pea-brains gives them the capability to do so and learn from the manner of the civilised peoples, they need to give it up. Like I’ve been saying all along (but denied by the incurable optimists) the savage, uncouth, turd world barbarians are not going to civilise themselves and try to become civilised like the evolved societies. Rather, the overwhelming number of the turd-headed savages will eventually pull down the few civilised societies and all humans will be living in one big barbarocratic turd world planet, mirroring the conditions of the filthiest parts of the uncouth turd world.

    • axinia Says:

      I’m talking, of course, about Jesus Christ. (Who else can it be?) Was it because Daniel forgot him completely?

      by no means, Raj! In fact Andreev talked a lot about Christ but in the other part of the book. I wish you could read the whole book one day, it’s one of the most insightful books ever written i think…

  8. It’s not normal for a “mainstream newspaper” blogger in a country as filthy and barbaric as the evil Indian empire to ever speak the truth or even think of writing in terms of how the savage hordes and the evil, uncouth empire that they inhabit have to learn to behave like civilised humans. But it does happen once in a blue moon. As I mentioned, there are exceptions to the rule and it does happen occasionally that someone writes a piece in a “mainstream paper” about the how the nasty behaviour of their evil empire is simply sub-human, uncouth and obnoxious.
    ——————————————–
    THE UGLY INDIAN (written by CP Surendran –

    Canada says its denial of visas to Indian security officials on grounds of human rights violations, torture and espionage is a mistake.

    India was hurt to the quick at the charges. The government issued an angry warning and said it would take retaliatory measures if Canada did not take corrective measures.

    Now that it has done so, the two countries could resume the pleasantries. But that wouldn’t alter the truth. And the truth is that Indian security forces, like most other security forces in the world, routinely commit human rights violations (Kashmir, northeast, etc), certainly torture (any jail anywhere, any police lock-up anywhere) and seriously play at espionage (consider the number of the Indian spies, more or less disowned by the State, doing time in Pakistan jails).

    Now, we can protest our innocence and act righteous. But we’d be deceiving ourselves. The security forces anywhere in the world will do all these. That is their job. But unlike the more civilized west, our men are not accountable. Consider the high number of custodial deaths –127 last year alone, according to NHRC, or any number of torture cases. This is a primitive country and sees in violence a kind of catharsis. The recent baying for Kasab’s public execution, preceded by chopping of limbs is a case in point.

    So instead of getting hot under the collar, the Indian authorities should be thanking Canada for holding up a mirror to our ugly face. It is through such diplomatic slip-ups that we know how we are really perceived in a world, at least a part of which is seriously giving a shot at evolving ethically driven societies.

    I suggest Canada take back its apology, and ask India to prove its credentials of civility. And I suggest Indians stop flattering brainwashing themselves into thinking, no doubt with the help of an embarrassingly patriotic media, that they have arrived. The truth, ah, comrade, is we have just about started and it’s such a long way to go.

    (PS. In the coming days I hope to blog more on the fascinating and many facets of the Ugly Indian. Shouldn’t be difficult, we are so many.)
    ———————————————–

    CP Surendran certainly deserves a journalistic award for courage, honesty, ethics and for speaking the truth. Each and every word in that article is a gem, and it contains many relevant things about the evolution of ethically driven societies, which is what this post is all about.

    🙂

    • Avdhut Says:

      Yes. there is a long way to go, and no’one can be forced down the right path, or else that path loses it’s rightness. It has to be a personal decision made in the light of the ever present and autonomous truth that evil is self-destructive.

      So it is good to speak up, but important how you do so. One has to appeal to the principle of evolution acting through all living things, that, in all humans, aspires to peaceful harmony with creation. Denial that that innate autonomous aspiration exists, (some call it God), IS EVIL ITSELF.

  9. The following sentences are especially worth their weight in gold (my reaction in brackets). It’s what I have been shouting all along, earning the hatred of many here, about how some societies are civilised and ethically evolved and others are uncouth, filthy and sub-human, but CP Surendran puts it a more polite, but nevertheless refreshingly truthful way:

    The title – THE UGLY INDIAN

    (In case one didn’t know, ugly here doesn’t refer to physical characteristics, but is meant to mean uncouth, regressive, barbaric and pea-brained in a very polite way)

    And the truth is that Indian security forces, like most other security forces in the world, routinely commit human rights violations (Kashmir, northeast, etc), certainly torture (any jail anywhere, any police lock-up anywhere)

    (Thank “God”, we have at least one honest, decent chap from the filthy, uncouth, sub-human, evil Indian empire who thinks of Kashmiris and North-Easterners as fellow humans)

    But we’d be deceiving ourselves.

    (Remember my hated, repetitive lines about LIES, DECEPTION, HYPOCRISY and CHEATING that’s second nature to the uncouth savages?)

    But unlike THE MORE CIVILIZED WEST, our men are not accountable.

    (Wohoho!!! When I mention of the civilised societies and the uncouth ones, I am hated as an undesirable. But the truth can never be denied. I wish the author had gone on to mention the world’s filthiest laws of the evil Indian empire such as AFSPA, DAA, PSA which give complete immunity to criminals in uniform.)

    This is a PRIMITIVE COUNTRY and sees in violence a kind of catharsis

    (This is so self-explanatory. Does it remind you of someone who constantly mentions primitive, bloodthirsty, savage, barbaric, regressive hordes?)

    …the Indian authorities should be thanking Canada for holding up a mirror to our ugly face

    (Did I ever mention about uncouth savages completely lacking the required intelligence to learn from the behaviour of civilised people?)

    …in a world, at least a part of which is seriously giving a shot at evolving ethically driven societies.

    (What did I tell you of civilised societies being driven by ethical principles? “Evolving” ethically driven societies is what Axinia’s post is all about)

    I suggest Canada take back its apology, and ask India to prove its credentials of civility.

    (If only wishes were horses, Surendran! The turd world barbarians are never going to become civilised, because the pea-brains wallowing inside their turdy heads aren’t simply capable of it. Rather they will pull down the civilised first world societies to their own lowly, uncouth, barbaric, evil, sub-human levels.)

    🙂

    (Oh, I forgot to mention the link in the previous comment – http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India-Circus/entry/the-ugly-indian)

  10. mahesh chendake Says:

    Teachers cannot “educate” the children, they can merely facilitate it, make it easy. It is the students who have to educate themselves. Good teachers realize this, understand the level of difficulty for each student and proceed to facilitate the process of education on an individual basis.
    Raj, on philosophy basis it’s O.K but it has another angle also. How many teachers take real efforts for students? It is fact that in graduate and post graduate level nobody teach. students have to learn with their own. they require teacher to give marks for internal and external evaluation only. most importantly ,hardly a new productive work really take place in doctorate level rather than reproducing the same work with refashioning . admire the teacher and pass in examination is the philosophy remain for student .the students,who opposes,argues, may be rebalint in behavior( in views of teacher) but may be true seeker, find very difficult to pass. I agree,in overcrowded classes it is not possible to pay individual attention also but not impossible also. It require a different attachment , bonding, I find it difficult. Attitude of both,teacher and student including parent, have changed lot. both have loose respect to each other and it has become mere business. Internate media, online libraries,books and virtual classrooms have changed teaching dramatically. On the students points it seems teacher requirement is reduced but I am sure it is not. Now it is real challenge to teacher to prove themselves and their need. Information can be given by anybody but for teaching n real eduction ( by definition change in behavior!!!) teachers requirement is sure. Finding abilities of students and guiding them on right tract is not easy in this competitive world. It requires spiritual/ vibrational / creative work, which teachers has to gain first and practiced regularly. I feel teacher has loose spirit in teaching. Teaching without spirit is mere useless information,which can be mugged and vomited in examination and forgotten. No real change in behavior,development of skills is seen. I mean understanding student, giving references, remaining friendly is not total facilitation n true education.It is more than that. one should understand its importance.unfortunately we are loose on that background with all respect so we see all darkness in education .No future for these students !!! and teacher’s also. Real teacher has to take pain along with student then some how it can change considering changing world scenario. For that teacher has to have vision,study,understanding and first he should prepare himself. If you ask any wise teacher, he will say whatever we learn in our periods is outdated now. We have to prepare our self own material and produce in this “all marketing world” The work should be your own and prepare with own efforts. Value of teacher will never reduce.
    Raj, now tell me where are such teacher?Dr. Radhakrishan, Dr.Kalam, even Manmohan singh, like to remain teacher. Why? Are we understand their vision? spirituality?
    coming to primary ,middle,and higher school, they definitely need “A teacher”. Where are our teacher? Are they well prepared in their subjects?Are they having vision? are they take real efforts? Are they have got clear education policy? I always feels, in the position of educationalist/education minister, a demon have come who are destroying innocence,purity and true wisdom of poor students. Teacher are politician,businessman, Market traders, racer, Gambler, alcoholic, gangsters, Vamp in sex scandal … everything but not a teacher. They have loose their spirit. You know, from Govt.. revinew 48% goes to teachers salary ????!!!! ( What is use?.)forget about good schooling, building,laboratory,playground etc. No ground, they have to give a paper of sports to get marks of sports !!!!! Primary teacher are only and only used for politics. they don’t have time for teaching.
    coming to student side, now what they will learn if we such a teacher’s are “ideal” to them? I find very poor student preparation. SSC/HSC pass student can’t read, produce A full statement on any subject in their mother tongue,forget about other language. This is our production of 100% marks!!!!.
    I will not blem to students at all. 20% student and 80% we all, teacher, parent, educationalist,politician etc ….failure…
    This is endless story…….
    “Gurupornima” is ahed …… Let’s pray for development of “Good Teacher”


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