1000 petals by axinia

the only truth I know is my own experience

It`s fascianting to have same experience as saints did! October 22, 2009

We live in fascinating times. Unbelievable but fact – being an ordinary householder, one can still  have extraordinary spiritual experiences like the saints of all times did.

I came across a stunning quote of a great South Indian saint Ramana Maharshi, (1879-1950) who describes his spiritual experiences exactly the way I have been experiencing it thanks to my meditation practice:

“…the samadhi I speak to you about is different. It is sahaja samadhi. In this state you remain calm and composed during activity. You realise that you are moved by the deeper self within and are unaffected by what you do or say or think. You have no worries, anxieties or cares, for you realise that there is nothing that belongs to you as ego and that everything is being done by something with which you are conscious union.”

Or this one: ” Your own Self-Realisation is the greatest service you can render the world”.  How true is this, incredible!

And that one is reflecting my own daily experience:  “Nearly all mankind is more or less unhappy because nearly all do not know the true Self. Real happiness abides in Self-knowledge alone. All else is fleeting. To know one’s Self is to be blissful always.”

 This beautiful saint is only one example. Reading of or about saintly people of all times I realise that they all had basically same experiences. The states they describe, the metaphors they use (like drinking the divine nectar) – all that is same and that indicates for me that indeed only ONE TRUTH. 

I feel so grateful and so happy that I am too able to have some of this absolutely blissful state. I don’t know about past lives, but even in this life…I remember since my childhood I had such a burning desire for THAT, for experiencing all that, for being able to unfold myself in that vast spiritual dimension. And it all came true!

It is a very special time we live in…

LOVE, axinia

 

38 Responses to “It`s fascianting to have same experience as saints did!”

  1. maplesyrup21 Says:

    that’s interesting

  2. Ramana Maharishi was a wise saint and a great ascetic, for sure.

    But Axinia, the problem is, like other wise bubble-dwelling saints who are not uncommon in this part of the world, he promoted detachment and began dwelling in an imaginary bubble.

    While that was a great path he chose for himself, such a rare and realised soul would have made a much greater difference to the world, humanity, civilisation and importantly, to the primitive semi-civilised country that he belonged to, had he chosen not to dwell in his bubble.

    That’s a big problem with Indian spirituality. With its characteristic feature of bubble-dwelling, many great souls who had the potential to civilise this primitive, backward, semi-civilised country could not do so 😦 It largely remains the same crude, mediaeval, semi-civilised place that it was a long time ago, while much of the rest of the world has moved on from its mediaeval past 😐 One could call it an unexplainable paradox.

    • axinia Says:

      Raj, reading your last paragraf, I finally start understanding why are you so angry with the Indian saints. I can see your point very well. At the time when some people achieve incredible hights of consisousness, there are milliones of people who live in a totally differnt state…But this is the evolution prosess – personal or spiritual growth takes a long, long way. You will not blame a child of 7 years old that it does not know the school programm of the 10th calss, right?

      The saints of India have done something, which is of great value not only for themselves, but for the coutns – they have enriched the land with tremendous vibraitons. There is no other country in the world of suchpowerful energy, belive me. In “prosperous”coutnries like Switzerland there are alsmost no vibrations at all, one feels like dead there. People, nature, everything is so…strange…not desirable.
      You have no idea what a blessing it is to live in India. I hope that I will move to this special coutnry one day.

      • Axinia,

        To be honest, I’m kind of stunned beyond words to read your comment 😯

        Okay, now after recovering from the high-voltage shock 😯 you gave me, I’ll reply to the points you mentioned.

        I finally start understanding why are you so angry with the Indian saints.

        Actually, I’m not angry with them at all 😐 I greatly respect their wisdom and their ability to undertake severe (almost suicidal) penance in search of spirituality. It’s their lives and they chose a path for themselves and they didn’t harm or hurt anyone in the process. Why should I be angry or upset with them 😕 I just mentioned that if these great souls had chosen not to dwell in their bubbles, each one of them would have done a tremendous service to society by civilising it, because of the sheer wisdom they possessed.

        At the time when some people achieve incredible hights of consisousness, there are milliones of people who live in a totally differnt state

        That is exactly what I too mean, Axinia 😐 Things work differently in the First and Third Worlds, don’t they? Any civilised society is marked by an egalitarian spirit, be it in terms of wealth, education and even “evolution” as you call it.

        For instance, in the civilised parts of the world, the percentage of destitute people is very small, almost negligible. Those classified as poor would make only a small percentage, but even that is in relative terms because they would have access to many basic needs of life. The vast majority of people would be in the middle class with a sizeable population of wealthy people. By contrast, the most backward, mediaeval, semi-civilised parts of the world are characterised by a logic called one billionaire surrounded by one hundred million desperate, starving poor who don’t have access to even the basic needs of life.

        It’s the same with “evolution”. The large majority of the civilised world would be quite “evolved” and it would be reflected in their society and culture which would have evolved a lot from their mediaeval times. By contrast, the semi-civilised societies would be characterised by the logic of one saint surrounded by one hundred million “less-evolved” hordes and that would be reflected in a primitive society with uncouth practices, customs and “culture”. Wouldn’t it have been a lot better for these societies if the few enlightened ones had chosen to civilise the hordes and eradicate mediaeval practices instead of enclosing themselves in their bubbles?

      • they have enriched the land with tremendous vibraitons. There is no other country in the world of suchpowerful energy, belive me

        I don’t quite know what to say 😐

        Let’s just consider a few special truths about the “special” country:

        1) With a score of 0.612, India is ranked 134th in the world in terms of the Human Development Index, in a list of 182 countries. This makes it a part of the BOTTOM 50 in the world.

        2) India is the 9th LEAST DEVELOPED country in Asia (yes, it’s unfortunate but true). Afghanistan, East Timor, Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, Yemen, Myanmar, Cambodia, India and Laos make up the bottom 10 in Asia. What’s the special country doing in this list of failed and failing states?

        3) With a literacy rate of 66% (76% men and 54% women), India has over thirty-five per cent of the world’s total illiterate population.

        4) 75.6% of the population lives below the international poverty line (adjusted for PPP) of $2 a day; 41.6% below the line of $1.25 a day.

        5) India today allocates lower than 1% of its GDP to health. According to United Nations calculations, India’s spending on public health as a share of GDP is the 18th LOWEST in the world.

        6) With a sex ratio of 1.06 (1.12 at birth), it is estimated that 10,000,000 girls have been KILLED by their own PARENTS in India in the past 20 years alone, either before they were born or immediately after.

        7) With 217,000,000 undernourished people, the special country has set a dubious record that will probably never be broken. Half of children in India are underweight, one of the highest rates in the world and nearly double the rate of Sub-Saharan Africa.

        With such special things, it may be a country of powerful energy. But looking at the facts as they are, it must be an extremely negative energy. And I haven’t even mentioned several uncouth practices that are an integral part of its “culture”, because they may give you a terrible shock 😐

        You have no idea what a blessing it is to live in India. I hope that I will move to this special coutnry one day.

        Hmmm… here is something that will tell you what a “blessing” it is to live in the “special” country:

        http://escapefromindia.wordpress.com/

        • Sahaja Says:

          I dont know what to say Raj!! But in general, if i can say something……..I am from the third world, and I come from a typical middle class family born and brought up in a conservative south indian household…….I never thought I would even cross the state I was in…..never I thought I would be abroad!

          So I can say probably, i am similar to you atleast 10% background wise…….Before I came to UK, I had my view of what the west is like , mainly pictured from what I read, what I saw and what is presented! Now I come here, and I learnt a lot about what is actually here…..Sure there are differences, sure people are well off here, sure they think of holidays than where can i find work today!…..But, kahan nahi hothe hai differences???

          Every place is different and so is every person! hence is every culture/every civilisation! what is the point critisizing and feeling bad about why is it like this when you cant do anything about past????

          For that matter you are soo different from me, I see the good whereever I go, first! and you see the negatives…..both of them are correct…..but there needs be a balance…..To me, it should be such a blind thing that I get myself in trouble by thinking every one is good……To you, it should not blind you from the improvements and positives……Things do not exist if everything is wrong with them, there should be some positive in everything!

          Sometimes, I feel, India is sooo huge and sooo expanse, that we are all like frogs in a biggg well….apne aap mein itni doobe hain hum , apna kachra saaf kerne mein doobe hain…….a well soooo big that we dont realise its a well!!

          I am sorry if I offended in any case…..it is definitely not my intention!

          And to add, I really feel blessed to be Indian, to have been born and brought up where I was……that doesnt mean I hate UK…..I like UK too, and ienjoy my stay here…..but home is always home and def I dont want to settle abroad!

          • Sahaja Says:

            I mean “To me, it should NOT be such a blind thing that I get myself in trouble by thinking every one is good……”

          • Hey, you didn’t offend me in any way… so no need to say sorry 🙂 Even if you did, I wouldn’t mind it since I realise how Third World “culture” works – bouquets for boot-licking, brickbats for plain-speaking 😐

            Every place is different and so is every person! hence is every culture/every civilisation!

            Of course, it is. That’s why we still have some “cultures” that remain stuck in the 1st millenium BCE and others that exist in the 21st century CE. Now, if those that remain stuck somewhere between 999 and 1 BCE just kept to themselves (like the reclusive tribes of the Amazon), it would not have mattered. But since they believe in rapid overbreeding due to their mediaeval nature (unlike the tribes of the Amazon who don’t breed beyond the carrying capacity of their habitat), they are bound to pull down those who live in the present century due to their sheer numbers as well as their uncouth “civilisation”. This is what the corrupt elites of the civilised societies too seem to prefer, since it maximises their profits.

            The hordes will neither progress themselves nor will they allow others to progress. It’s just like water in interconnected jars 😦

            Want an example? Copenhagen.

            It’s a pity that the semi-civilised Third World is asking the civilised First World to cut down massively on emissions, while there is absolutely no talk of the semi-civilised societies being asked to reduce their alarming breeding rates. Yes, the First World is responsible for much of the pollution and it affects the Third World disproportionately, but left to themselves, the population of the civilised societies will quickly reduce to a sustainable level. It’s the mediaeval-minded, rapidly overbreeding societies that are going to cause the planet to drown itself and inflict self-made miseries on themselves and others. The civilised societies must make the semi-civilised hordes to agree to reduce their alarming breeding rates before accepting cuts in carbon emissions.

            what is the point critisizing and feeling bad about why is it like this when you cant do anything about past????

            It’s not the past, but the present and the future. The trends clearly indicate where we’re heading for.

            I’m not feeling bad. It’s just that the difference among “cultures” is obvious. Socrates once said, I know you won’t believe me, but the highest form of human excellence is to question oneself and others. Contrast that with those philosphers who believed that the highest form of human excellence is bubble-dwelling. The results are there for all to see in the present day societies that followed these two radically divergent schools of thought.

            I guess the enlightened ones that believed in bubble-dwelling should not be blamed. Wise as they were, I guess they must have realised that some “cultures” are so primitive and backward that they cannot be changed. Fed up with the incorrigible and uncouth nature of such “cultures”, they must have taken up bubble-dwelling as a means of escape 😐

            Things do not exist if everything is wrong with them, there should be some positive in everything!

            I beg to differ. Can you tell me what is positive about the practice of deliberate female foeticide 😕 Such crap exists only because some societies are semi-civilised.

            • Sahaja Says:

              I did not say everything is good and happy! neither did I say that things u pointed have positive in them…..My whole point was, I dont see any point criticizing everything around oneself when nothing is being done…..Personally, I hate to just sit and say its wrong……its bad and its horrible, I want to see some action and I believe actions speak more than words…..I dont know what you are doing to change things, but I am not doing much now and I hope to do something in future!

              I really dont know what to say, sometimes it sends a chill in my spine, reading what your views are!

              Everybody has problems and they think its the biggest in world……which is simply human…..things change if we want to change!

  3. radha Says:

    Hi Raj
    How are you, how about you? do you also live as in medieval like other people around yourself or you could moved forward? Here also were i live in China i can witness medievality or even prehistory each day i step out of the door, but i dont live in it at all.

    • volodimir108 Says:

      radha, your point is awesome.

    • I’m fine, Radha 🙂 No, I’m not mediaeval-minded, at least I try hard not to be 😐

      Here also were i live in China i can witness medievality or even prehistory each day i step out of the door, but i dont live in it at all.

      That’s not surprising to hear. If there is one society that can rival India in the number of female foetuses it kills every year, it has got to be China 😐 Glad to hear that you don’t accept such nonsense 🙂

      • axinia Says:

        The point here also was that if you think you are so much mroe advanced that the rest of India, what kind of difference do YOU make?

        • if you think you are so much mroe advanced that the rest of India

          I don’t think I’m so much more advanced, Axinia, not at all 😐

          Like others, my mind was poisoned by the crap that was constantly drilled into me about how “great” Indian “culture” is, when it is actually one of the most mediaeval, regressive and decadent ones in the world today.

          Indians generally are a shameless bunch who love to boast about their own mediaeval-mindedness and semi-civilised nature. With their primitive nature of rapid overbreeding, they are spreading their mediaeval-minded behaviour around the world, determined to pull down the civilised societies with their uncouth behaviour. (I’ll give proof shortly) I can sometimes understand why Indians are usually hated in almost every part of the world and attacked in many places. Of course, this does not apply to an Indophile like you 😉

          • avi Says:

            brother u are lost in a play designed to cheat you. all the crap will wither away to the test of time. but save urself before ur dangerous hobby of counting the thorns and missing the precious few roses gets better of u. it can rob u of ur peace forever. and its only peace born out of ur self that can settle down all turmoil. check out ur centre of mastery to know how to create peace inside and out 😉 for real. there are already thousands of realised people who are just walking about emitting peace unknowingly and soon their fragnance will overpower all the worlds stench of ignorance not jus the third world 😉

        • Sahaja,

          My whole point was, I dont see any point criticizing everything around oneself when nothing is being done

          Criticism identifies that something is wrong and is the first step of setting it right. If one does not even have even the ability to identify what has gone wrong, then how will one have the guts to set it right 😕 Yes, it’s not enough to merely identify it without setting it right, but not even taking this first step can be considered as a dishonourable act. As the saying goes, All it takes for evil to triumph is for the good to do (and this word includes ‘say’) nothing. Please remember that Silence constitutes acceptance.

          Everybody has problems and they think its the biggest in world

          Well, if some think that “problems” are actually a sign of a “great culture” and shamelessly boast about it, it’s obvious they don’t even understand that there are problems, both with their “great culture” and with themselves.

          I really dont know what to say, sometimes it sends a chill in my spine, reading what your views are!

          My friend, I guess you must be joking, correct? 😉

          I mean, do you actually think that by stating the facts as they are, I’m trying to be a horror film director 😕 Or do you believe I’m spinning yarns, making up these facts by myself to give you a scare? I’m willing to give you as much proof as you want since I myself have zero affinity towards blind beliefs 🙂

          What actually sends a chill down your spine? The horrible “cultural” facts themselves, or my dispassionate presentation of them 😕

          I hope to do something in future!

          Delighted to hear that! 🙂 Wish you good luck in your noble endeavours!
          ——————————————————
          Axinia and Sahaja,

          what kind of difference do YOU make?

          I dont know what you are doing to change things

          Unfortunately, I’m neither an enlightened one nor do I possess the great wisdom of these saints 😦

          With my all round limitations, the little that I have done is a drop 😐 But rest assured that I’m not going to let the drop evaporate. Hopefully it will turn into a trickle. With some luck, the trickle will turn into a runoff, the runoff into a torrent, the torrent into a raging stream and the stream into an unstoppable river 😐

          Perhaps you will get to know of the difference someday (but never from my own mouth, I promise). Perhaps you won’t since I may fail. That cannot be an excuse, of course. What needs to be done must be done, the good fight must be fought without worrying about the results.

          😐

          • Sahaja Says:

            To be honest with you, I really appreciate the knowledge you have about facts of India, its not that which sends a chill in my spine……frankly, its your presentation! I feel, all that energy if you put into something achievable, you can make a lott more difference to the society!! Thats all!….

            And I do not say, India is fully complete, culturally rich and all…..our past [may be 500yrs back] was so…..and I agree that most indians, sit and praise their glorified past and dont see the truth of present! It does bother me , make me feel, “God! something needs to be radically changed!”
            I agree, criticism is first point of doing something, but stopping there and not moving forward doesnt bring anything at all……..infact, the first step would be lost!

            And its not about arguments or counter arguments…..its about perspective! May be you feel good in seeing the glass half empty all the time…..I cannot! I cannot, live without hope!

          • To be honest with you, I really appreciate the knowledge you have about facts of India – Thanks, but it’s no big deal… all these facts can be taken off the net with a simple search 😐

            frankly, its your presentation! – Then you haven’t seen anything yet! 😐 The ones that I have come across have managed to fill me with rage, disgust, shame etc. 😡 Some are so shocking 😯 that they may cause a heart attack in soft lilies who remain enclosed in their sweetly perfumed bubbles 😐

            I feel, all that energy if you put into something achievable, you can make a lott more difference to the society – I realised that as well. Raving and ranting on the web doesn’t change things at all, especially in a semi-civilised country whose internet penetration rate is a mere 7%. That’s why I’m slowly taking my energies off the blogosphere and concentrating them elsewhere 😐

            culturally rich and all…..our past [may be 500yrs back] was so – Oh, come on, our past was by no means “culturally rich”… it was just as mediaeval as those of the other parts of the world at that time… (except maybe for a few short spans in some places, after which it descended back into the familiar uncouthness)… of course, while the other parts (not all) of the world have moved on from their mediaevality, we remain stuck right there.

            And why 500 years ago? Because the Europeans landed about that time? The same old crap that is dished out in history books about how the “evil” colonial Europeans “destroyed” a “great culture”?

            Did the Brits introduce the filthy, inhuman caste system? NO! Did the Portuguese introduce sati? NO! Did the French introduce child marriage and the ostracisation of widows? NO! Did the Danes introduce manual scavenging? NO! Did the Dutch introduce the devadasi system? NO!

            The European colonisers actually played a part in suppressing these filthy “cultural” practices, directly and indirectly, though it’s true they caused economic miseries.

            Who is responsible for all the miseries (economic and otherwise) of the last 62 years then? The Eskimos? The Berbers? The Incas? The Antarticans? The Martians, perhaps 🙄

            • axinia Says:

              “Raving and ranting on the web doesn’t change things at all, especially in a semi-civilised country whose internet penetration rate is a mere 7%. That’s why I’m slowly taking my energies off the blogosphere and concentrating them elsewhere”

              is a mature statement Raj. would be great to know where else?

            • Sahaja Says:

              Just wanted to ask, Have you travelled/lived anywhere outside India? Or for that matter, may be out of TN/South India?

            • Axinia, would be great to know where else?

              …but never from my own mouth, I promise 😉 Suffice to say that all options (new and old) are being explored. Sometimes, it can be futile to take on a Stone Age mindset with the tools of the Internet Age 😐
              ——————————————————
              Sahaja, Have you travelled/lived anywhere outside India? Or for that matter, may be out of TN/South India?

              Never outside India, very little outside the South. I guess, both you and I can be glad of that. Had I been in a place whose people are at the direct receiving end of the crimes of the kleptocrats of the pseudo-democratic Third World Indian empire, my reaction would have naturally been quite different 😐

              • axinia Says:

                Raj, I would be very glad to hear about your great acting against the Third World problems.

              • Sahaja Says:

                I guess, travelling will give you a lot more wider view! Personally, I hate to criticize something comparing it with something I have never experienced first hand!

              • I would be very glad to hear about your great acting against the Third World problems.

                It isn’t great, Axinia. When or rather if it becomes great, you’ll automatically hear about it – till then, mum’s the word! As in kein wort darüber! 😐
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                Sahaja, Personally, I hate to criticize something comparing it with something I have never experienced first hand!

                A filthy concoction will taste just as horrible whether you compare it to honey, cola, tea, water or even sea water. If you love its taste, you’re welcome to drink as much as you want 🙂

                And I will continue trying to turn that filthy concoction into potable water! I guess you can neither stop me nor tell me to learn to enjoy its taste! Personally, I think voracious boot-licking can burn the taste buds on one’s tongue 😐

                • Sahaja Says:

                  Ofcourse not….I don’t expect to change anyone without being in their shoes! What I tried is to express my view abt it so u mite get an idea of what’s someone else’s view might be! And I don’t know where boot licking fits in all of this! Not criticizing doesn’t mean praising/appreciating…..just diff personality , so diff way of dealing with things

                • I don’t expect… without being in their shoes! What I… view might be!

                  Thanks for your view, then. But I just try not to wear my own shoes (or those similar to mine) all the time. I try hard to put on the shoes of the shoeless so that I can understand their pain when they get pricked by thorns.

                  Not criticizing doesn’t mean praising/appreciating

                  Just as you feel that stating the facts as they are amounts to criticising, I feel that not criticising amounts to praising/appreciating.

                  • Sahaja Says:

                    Thank you for the discussion 🙂

                  • It’s quite simple to turn filthy concoction to potable water as there are many methods – distillation, reverse osmosis, nanofiltration etc. or a combination of less effective methods. This isn’t the problem.

                    The problem is people want to keep the filthy concoction and worse, force others to drink the filth. What’s funny, they go boasting about how they drink a filthy concoction and how others are “culturally poor” to drink potable water. What’s worse, the hordes descend on others’ homes to drink their potable water and instead of being grateful for the generosity of the hosts, force the filthy concoction on them as well.

                    As I always keep mentioning, it’s like water in interconnected jars. Kilolitres (and multiplying by the second) of filthy concoction are trying to overwhelm a few litres of potable water. It’s natural for a backlash to occur. The semi-civilised Third World hordes and the crooked first World elites cannot get away with their shocking crimes for too long. Once the filth becomes intolerable, it would be judgement day. Wait for 2012 😐

                • Sahaja Says:

                  It would be very enlightening for me to know how one canturn filthy concoction to water….bingo, u solve the problem u r highlighting to the world,if u have a working solution y not share with everyone, or atleast ppl like me who r struggling to get a solution!!

                  I am sorry i misunderstood ur comments as criticism, I assumed they were meant to be criticism n so never gave a really good thought abt what u really mean, n I still don’t agree that it’s boot licking….. But if it’s boots of mine, I don’t mind, I know where I walk!

  4. Tomas Says:

    We all live in different conditions, and thus the same feelings frequently obtain quite different verbal expressions, that plant the confrontation instead of the dreamed unity. Thus while reading any text, we should not hurry to judge the message.
    Yet in this case I could accept your post without any delay – Ramana Maharishi’s eyes (his pure smile) have met me here and pierced deeply into the heart.
    That smile embodies what’s the best in all languages and makes us all the followers. Dictionaries are no longer needed.
    http://arthiker.wordpress.com/

  5. Here is the proof that I mentioned. Let’s see what an Indian calling herself Radha Patel had to say in an online forum about Indian H1B workers in America:

    “To Mr. Wadhwa: So good you are getting this word out Sir, about America needing good Indian boys and girls to keep going. What shall be done about all the old Americans and their gangster children though? Shall we move them to reservations away from civilization, like the red indians have been? Shall we keep them close and employ them like our dalits back home? I for one favour a mixed approach. The most intelligent of them can be our servants, the less intelligent and more beligerant must be kept away. We talk about this a lot back home, as it seems more and more certain that Bharat will conquer this land.”

    Well, well, well… what do we have here? A semi-civilised, mediaeval-minded Indian who had gone as a guest worker to a foreign country. Instead of being grateful to the host country and its people for welcoming her, since she could not get enough opportunities in her own semi-civilised country, she speaks about bringing in more and more uncouth, semi-civilised, rapidly overbreeding people like herself. She wants to overrun a civilised place with the mediaeval-minded hordes and then introduce the sordid, inhuman, disgusting, filthy caste system in America, reducing American citizens to the level of servants, like the “dalits back home” according to her.

    What do you have to say about this kind of attitude 😕 Would it not disgust anyone to see observe such filthy behaviour?

    As I mentioned, I sometimes do understand why Indians are usually hated in most places they go. Be it in Africa (Uganda and Idi Amin), be it in Europe (Indians thrashed in countries varying from Germany to Russia to Britain), West Asia (where Indians are generally treated with contempt) or the most recent case, Australia (many Indian “students” getting beaten up).

    The Indian “mainstream media” made a lot of noise about Indian students getting thrashed in Australia. Knowing how useless the Indian “mainstream media” scoundrels are, I looked for information on what the Aussies had to say on the internet. Just as I had suspected, the Aussies had a lot to say about the behaviour of the Indian “students” who had descended on Australia by the hordes, attempting to take over a civilised place and transform it by their uncouth, semi-civilised behaviour.

    Though the Aussies condemned the violent attacks on the Indians, even the most decent ones had a lot to say about the uncouth behaviour of the Indians. It seems the hordes of semi-civilised Indians live twenty to a room which can accomodate five, urinate in the open, violate the terms of their student visas, drive rashly without respecting road rules, talk loudly and play loud music in libraries and other places where civilised people are expected to maintain silence. And this is only the “mildly nauseating” behaviour.

    Having lived in a semi-civilised “culture”, it seems the Indian hordes took their uncouth behaviour with them to Australia. Aussies are absolutely furious with the way the uncouth Indians treat waiters, chauffers, janitors, shop-assisstants etc. In semi-civilised India, the uncouth Indian hordes treat people like maids, domestic workers, drivers, janitors etc. as if they were worse than animals. With their pea-brains poisoned with the filth of the nauseating caste system, the semi-civilised, backward, primitive Indians treat such workers like untouchables. When they practised the same filthy behaviour in a civilised society like Australia, even the most culturally open-minded Aussie was disgusted with such toxic behaviour of the Indian hordes that had descended on Australia.

    And that is not all. Australian women say Indian males behave like uncouth barbarians. They leer, stare and ogle and at women, make filthy remarks, deliberately touch them or brush against them etc. Of course, I was not surprised. Such noxious behaviour is known as eve-teasing and is common throughout India, and intolerably high in the most primitive parts of the country. Any semi-civilised “culture” is characterised by a total lack of respect for women. In semi-civilised India, where daughter-in-laws are doused with kerosene and then burnt for not bringing enough dowry, where girls are killed for falling in love and where little girls are killed right in their mother’s womb for the only reason that they are girls, where widows are killed, ostracised or treated like animals, how can one expect males to behave in a civilised manner?

    Now, if the rapidly overbreeding semi-civilised Indians take their nauseating practices like the filthy caste system, eve-teasing etc. with them when to move in their hordes to civilised societies (or even other semi-civilised Third World societies where such filthy practices don’t exist), how can one expect any sane person to tolerate such nauseous behaviour? Perhaps, it’s a case of “one only reaps what one sows”, when the primitive Indian hordes are despised, ill-treated and attacked wherever they go.

    If the likes of Radha Patel think the semi-civilised, rapidly overbreeding Indian hordes can demographically invade the USA and reduce American citizens to servants like “the dalits back home”, I guess they are in for a rude shock. Americans, despite their well-known drawbacks, are a freedom loving people and they are (or at least were) a true democracy backed by a superb constitution, unlike the semi-civilised pseudo-democratic India characterised by a severely self-contradictory, almost worthless constitution. They have a Bill of Rights for citizens which they regard as sacrosanct (of course, the American elite crooks want to destroy this). And the Second Amendment gives the citizens a right to bear arms for self-defence as well as preventing the tyranny of the government.

    If the uncouth Indian hordes are looking to take over America and introduce their filthy semi-civilised practices in the USA, then I guess a lot of well-armed, freedom-loving Americans, already reduced to difficult conditions by their corrupt elites, would be looking for some target practice, to put it mildly 😐

  6. leela Says:

    when I told some friends I am going to India for some months they told me I will get a culture shock, and indeed I got one … but coming back to Europe! 🙂

    it must be what Axinia mentioned about the vibrations, in India it flows, the skin gets like a baby skin, the eyes shines.. after 4 months of India I looked 5 years younger 🙂 Back on the airport in Vienna I felt such stagnation around me, it was a surprising experience!

    of course, India has many problems. some of the biggest are the corruption and the fact that Indians don´t give enough value to their culture. India is beautiful!

    • axinia Says:

      thanks, leela. that is the point! However I am not sure that an Indian who always lives there can ever understand that…I mean such things are clearer for an outsider, may be…

  7. However I am not sure that an Indian who always lives there can ever understand that

    Did you mean me, Axinia 😉

    🙂

    • avi Says:

      i deeply wish that u get liberated soon from ur self strangulation. my god Mr. I am tempted to make a case study of you.
      how we can penetrate in to our collective past and carry around its mammoth mass and needless suffering.
      the freshness of the day, the sweetness of dew, the sunshine smile and pretty breeze all seems lost.
      but all is never lost as the desire of peace and brotherhood burns to keep it all alive.

      • Avi annagaaru,

        Dhanyavaadalu! You are welcome to make whatever study of me you want 🙂

        I don’t think I’m lost in any play because I’m doing a conscious role in that play, a player who is playing the game.

        I guess looking for thorns among the few rare roses actually helps since I know they exist and where they exist, so I can aviod them pricking me.

        I don’t want to build a bubble around myself and try to pluck a rose, since the thorns would burst the bubble and prick me 😐

        If the many realised souls in the past could do nothing about the place characterising the lowest depths of civilisation due to its semi-civilised “culture”, how are the realised ones of today going to overpower the stench of ignorance beyond the third world 😕 If their fragrance cannot even make the hordes that inhabit their lands behave in a civilised way, then how are they going to take enlightenment beyond the third world 😕

        The desire of peace and brotherhood is actually a wild dream. Let the lowly Third World hordes and the crooked First World elites exhibit the maturity shown by animals first. Then they can think of achieving wild dreams like peace and brotherhood. The sheer ignorance of the rapidly multiplying hordes and the notorious crookedness of the elites is overpowering small fragrances that exist anywhere in the world. The fireworks may actually begin well before 2012.

        😐

  8. jpenstroke Says:

    I am always touched and openned in some new way that allows me to be more present to the moment and what is within when I read your posts.


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